Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Commentary for Bava Kamma 14:22

Tosafot on Bava Kamma

In the days of Nisan land appreciates. The Gemara, searching for the circumstances under which the ruling of the Braita is correct says that the Braita is discussing the cyclical change of land prices. Rashi says that during Nison people pay more because they will be able to produce a crop for the coming season. During Tishrai prices are lower because there is insufficient time to prepare the land to produce a crop for this year.
And if you ask: This cyclical change in price makes sense for fields as Rashi explains. For one can plow in the summer and plant in Marcheshvan (October), but as far as houses are concerned, what difference is there between Nison and Tishrai?
And we can answer: That usually houses become more expensive during the season for renting houses
1Meiri understands that the season for renting houses is also in Nison. and after the houses are rented the price falls.
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Tosafot on Bava Kamma

We compare it to [a case of] a creditor. The Gemara was searching for a situation where we could apply the ruling of the cyclical change of price. The Gemara suggests that this could be true of a creditor. If his loan is collectable in Tishrai he is entitled to be paid from the middle quality fields of the debtor at the lower Tishrai prices. If he prefers to be paid with the lowest quality fields he must take them at the higher Nison prices.
The Gemara rejects this suggestion because this would have a negative effect on a person’s ability to obtain a loan. The lenders will not want to give loans, because the fact that he gave a loan is being used against him. If he had his cash in hand he would be able to purchase the poorest quality field at the Tishrai prices, now because he gave the person a loan he must take the field at Nison prices. This will discourage people from giving loans.
Tosafot wonders why the Gemara does not use the reasoning that it used earlier when the Gemara wanted to apply this ruling to a victim of damages. The Gemara said that forcing the victim to accept the middle or poor quality at Nison prices is weakening the position of the victim. The Torah says that he can collect from the finest and this ruling would in effect say that he cannot collect from the middle or poor quality at Tishrai prices. Why doesn't the Gemara use a similar reasoning here and argue that we are weakening the position of the creditor who can collect from the middle quality and you are saying that he cannot collect from the poorest quality if he so desires.
And the Gemara could not have asked, if so, that the creditor must accept the poorest fields at the higher Nison prices, you have weakened the position of the creditor, who is entitled to collect from the middle quality at the lower Tishrai prices and you are weakening his position by ruling that when collecting from the poorest he must accept them at the higher Nison prices.
Assuming that the Torah wanted to strengthen the creditor’s ability to collect his debt from the middle quality, the ruling that he must take the poorest quality at higher Nison prices is weakening his position.
However, this argument is incorrect because the Torah never strengthened the power of a creditor as it does the power of a damages victim; rather the reverse is true his position is weak because according to Torah law the rule of the creditor is to collect from the poorest. The Torah was not concerned that the creditor is in a weak position, so that would not stop us from forcing him to accept the poorest at Nison prices. It is only because it would discourage potential lenders that we do not force a creditor to accept the poorest at Nison prices.
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Tosafot on Bava Kamma

Give me slightly more land of inferior quality. While the Gemara is searching for a situation where it can apply the cyclical change of price rule, the Gemara suggested that it might be speaking about a creditor who instead of taking one acre of middle quality fields wants an acre and a half of the poorest quality. At this point the Gemara believes that he can be forced to accept the poorest quality field at the higher Nison prices. There was a text in the Gemara that the creditor might be asking for a half acre of the prime quality and that he must accept that at higher Nison prices. Tosafot rejects that version of the Gemara.
We do not have the text: or
if the creditor wanted a bit less of the finest.1The Rosh does cite this text. See Pilpula Charifta note 8. If we had this text the Gemara would then be saying that we do give him a half acre of the finest but at the higher Nison prices. For if that were so, why does the Gemara ask in response to the suggestion that we are dealing with a creditor who wants a bit less of the finest: if so, that you force him to take the finest at the higher Nison prices, you are locking the door in the face of borrowers who will not be able to obtain a loan if we force the creditor to accept the finest at the higher Nison prices. This would make sense if the creditor had a right to demand the finest and we would say that you must accept the finest at the higher Nison prices, but since it is not at all his right to collect from the finest, theoretically the debtor can ask for any price he wants for the finest even more than the Nison prices, allowing the creditor to receive the finest at the Nison price is actually improving the position of the creditor, for it is established that the creditor’s rule is to collect from the middle quality and he has no right at all to demand the finest.
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Tosafot on Bava Kamma

We compare it to a woman's marriage contract. The Gemara finally decides that there is one area where the cyclical change of price rules. That is regarding the collection of a k’suboh. The wife is entitled to collect from the poorest fields. If she wants to take a smaller parcel of a middle or finer quality field the husband can force her to accept it at the higher Nison prices. Tosafot adds:
With this same explanation, the Gemara could have said that the circumstances where the cyclical change of price rule can apply are about a creditor, whom the Gemara is already discussing. He says: give me a smaller parcel of the finest. He would have to accept the smaller parcel of the finest at the higher Nison prices. However, since the Gemara started with saying that this cyclical change of price rule applies to damagers, and when the Gemara rejected that attempt it said that we were discussing a creditor. After examining whether this rule is relevant to the first two types of collectors, the Gemara is now content to mention a woman’s K’suboh which is the third type of collector.
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Tosafot on Bava Kamma

Do not raise the dilemma in accordance with Rabbi Yishmael, as he says we appraise according to [that of] the injured [party]. The Gemara is quite certain that according to R’ Yishmo’ail determining the qualities of finest, middle or poorest cannot be calculated by world standards. Why is the Gemara so sure?
Since R’ Yishmo’ail learns from a textual comparison using the words שדה שדה, one ‘שדה’ appears in the verse “the best of his fields… he shall use for payment” and the other ‘שדה’ from the verse “and he will destroy another’s field” which is clearly referring to the field of the victim. The designation of the finest is based only on the field of the victim because it is his field that the Torah is discussing in the verse “and he will destroy another’s (the victim’s) field”. However, according to R’ Akiva it is possible that his intention when he says the field of the person paying is to be used as a barometer for the finest he only comes to exclude the victim’s finest and not the finest according to world standards.
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