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Commentary for Kiddushin 144:15

ת"ר גר נושא ממזרת דברי ר' יוסי ר' יהודה אומר גר לא ישא ממזרת אחד גר אחד עבד משוחרר וחלל מותרים בכהנת מ"ט דרבי יוסי חמשה קהלי כתיבי

When it is added, from all your filthiness and from all your idols,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Ezek. XXXVI. 25.');"><sup>23</sup></span> [it implies] but not from bastardy. Said R'Jose to him: When it is [further] said, will cleanse you,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Ezek. XXXVI. 25.');"><sup>23</sup></span> you must say: From bastardy too. As for R'Meir, it is well: hence it is written, and the bastard shall dwell in Ashdod.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Zech. IX, 6. I.e., apart from other Jews, because they will remain impure and forbidden to marry.');"><sup>24</sup></span> But according to R'Jose, why 'and the bastard shall dwell in Ashdod'? - As R'Joseph translated it: The house of Israel shall dwell in security in their land, where [formerly] they were as strangers.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' So he translates mamzer. Joshua counted Ashdod as part of the land of Israel (Josh. XIII, 1-3) ; but it was not conquered, and so they were as strangers there. Now they should possess it. [V. Targum Pseudo-Jonathan on the Prophets, a.l.; cf. also Geiger, Urschrift p. 52ff who proves from rznn rz ogn here that, is a compound word from 'a strange people', and had originally an ethnical connotation, which was subsequently transferred to denote offspring from forbidden marriages.]');"><sup>25</sup></span> Rab Judah said in Samuel's name: The halachah agrees with R'Jose. R'Joseph said: Had not Rab Judah ruled in Samuel's name that the halachah is as R'Jose, Elijah would have come and sent entire gangs away from us.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Of mamzerim or their descendants. The lit., translation is: necks and necks (tied together) by chains. According to another reading: necks');"><sup>26</sup></span> Our Rabbis taught: A proselyte may marry a mamzereth: this is R'Jose's view. R'Judah ruled: A proselyte may not marry a mamzereth. A proselyte, a freed slave, and a halal are permitted to [marry] a priest's daughter. What is R'Jose's reason? - 'Assembly' [kahal] is written five times:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Deut. XXIII, 3f and 9. 'Assembly' in v. 2 is not counted, because it does not deal with unfitness on account of birth.');"><sup>27</sup></span>

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