Commentary for Menachot 95:5

אמר ליה רבינא לרב אשי והתניא כשהוא פודן אין פודן אלא בחוץ

for according to Rabbi they would at once become invalid on being taken out. R'Aha the son of Raba said to R'Ashi, Shall we say that [in this Baraitha] we have a refutation of R'Johanan's view?

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