Commentary for Nedarim 173:7
והתניא מי שיש לו חולה בתוך ביתו ונתעלף וכמדומה שמת וקרע ואחר כך מת לא יצא ידי קריעה אמר ר' שמעון בן פזי אמר רבי יהושע בן לוי משום בר קפרא לא שנו אלא שמת לאחר כדי דיבור אבל בתוך כדי דיבור כדבור דמי
the other, [that he realised it] after the period of an utterance. ([Thus:] Your ruling that his duty of rending is fulfilled holds good when it is discovered to be his son within the period of an utterance, whilst your ruling that his obligation remains unfulfilled is [if he learnt it] after such period of an utterance.)7 And it was taught likewise: If one has all invalid in his house, who falls into a swoon and appears to be dead, and he rends his garments, and then he [the invalid] dies, his duty of rending is unfulfilled.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since he was alive when the garments were rent, that rending is invalid. ');"><sup>8</sup></span>
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