Commentary for Pesachim 104:11

מתקיף לה רב שימי מנהרדעא ומי פליגי רבנן עליה דרבי יוסי בשאר אילנות והא תנן מאימתי אין קוצצין את האילנות בשביעית ב"ש אומרים כל האילנות משיוציאו וב"ה אומרים החרובין משישרשרו והגפנים

but not for destruction? And should you answer that is only where it has reached<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'descended to'.');">²⁴</span> [the stage of] fruit,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., when it is ripe.');">²⁵</span> but not where it has not reached [the stage of] fruit, - surely R'Nahman said in Rabbah B'Abbuha's name: The calyxes<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which surround the date in its early stage.');">²⁶</span> of 'orlah are forbidden, because they became a guard for the fruits. Now, when is it a guard for the fruits? When they are unripe berries, yet he calls them fruits! - R'Nahman ruled as R'Jose. For we learned, R'Jose said: The [berries of 'orlah] in the budding stage [semadar] are forbidden, because they count as fruit; whereas the Rabbis disagree with him. To this R'Shimi of Nehardea demurred; yet do the Rabbis disagree with R'Jose in respect to other trees,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Apart from the vine, to which the above refers.');">²⁷</span> - surely we learned, From when may you not cut down trees in the Sabbatical year?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' As stated above, they must be used for food, not for destruction. Now the question is: at what stage are their fruits regarded as food, so that the tree must not be cut down, but left until its fruit ripens.');">²⁸</span> Beth Shammai maintain: All trees [may not be cut down] from when they bring forth;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Rashi explains here: the first leaves (preceding the fruits) ; but in Ber. ');">²⁹</span> but Beth Hillel rule: The carob trees from when they form chains [of carobs]; the vine trees,

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