Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Commentary for Pesachim 108:12

רב פפא אמר מאי אינו כתענית ציבור אינו כראשונות אלא כאחרונות ואסורה

And even R'Simeon B'Gamaliel merely says that if he sits and does not work it does not look like conceit, yet he certainly does not forbid it? - Rather, what does 'is not like a public fast' mean? In respect o the Ne'ilah service.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' On specially proclaimed public fast-days an extra service was added at the end of the day', called ne'ilah, which means 'closing'. R. Johanan states that there is no ne'ilah on the Ninth of Ab.');"><sup>17</sup></span> But surely R'Johanan said: Would that a man would go on praying all day!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If a man does not remember whether he has recited his statutory prayers, R. Johanan rules that he should recite them now, though there is an opposing view that a man must not pray when in this doubt. Now, since R. Johanan holds that a man must pray when in doubt, why should there not be a ne'ilah service on the Ninth of Ab, seeing that it is like a specially proclaimed public fast in many respects?');"><sup>18</sup></span>

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