Jewish%20thought for Kiddushin 91:7

בזו ובזו ובזו אם יש בכולן ש"פ כו' אהייא אילימא ארישא מאי איריא אוכלת אפי' מנחת נמי דהא התקדשי לי בזו קאמר אלא אסיפא

[this means] that she needs kiddushin from him. But had he seduced her with marital intent, why is kiddushin required?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That itself was betrothal.');">¹⁰</span> - Said Abaye: [This does not follow:] She may need kiddushin with her father's knowledge.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Even if her enticement had been for the same purpose.');">¹¹</span>

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