Jewish%20thought for Sukkah 83:2

רבא אמר אפילו תימא שלא הפכו הב"ע כגון שהוציאו בכלי והא רבא הוא דאמר לקיחה על ידי דבר אחר שמה לקיחה הני מילי דרך כבוד אבל דרך בזיון לא

Rava said: You may even say that he did not hold it upside down, but here we are dealing with a case where he carried it out in a vessel. But was it not Rava who said that taking by means of something else counts as a valid taking? That applies only [where the taking with something else is done] as a mark of respect, but not [if it is done] in a disrespectful manner.

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