Mesorat%20hashas for Gittin 22:15

אמר אמימר ואיתימא רב פפא

and R. Isaac b. Joseph were sitting [studying] before R. Jeremiah whilst R. Jeremiah was sitting and dozing, when R. Huna remarked that we learn from the ruling of the Rabbis [in our Mishnah] that if a man seizes the goods [of a third party] on behalf of a creditor, he acquires [them].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For the creditor and the owner cannot recover from him any more than he can withdraw the bill of emancipation from the agent. ');">¹³</span> Said R. Isaac b. Joseph to him: Even if by doing so he causes loss to others?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., if the man had other creditors also. ');">¹⁴</span> — He replied: Yes. At this point R. Jeremiah woke up [and overheard them]. He said: Youngsters, this is what R. Johanan said: If a man seizes goods on behalf of a creditor when by so doing he causes loss to others, he does not acquire. If you ask [how this can be reconciled with] our Mishnah,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which seems to say that he does become legal possessor. ');">¹⁵</span> [the answer is that] for a man to say 'give' is equivalent to saying 'acquire on behalf of'. R. Hisda says: [The case of the man] who seizes goods on behalf of a creditor and by so doing causes loss to others admits of the same difference of opinion as we find between R. Eliezer and the Rabbis. For we learnt:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For notes v. B.M. (Sonc. ed.) p. 49 ff. ');">¹⁶</span> If a man garners the corner [of his field], and said: This is for such-and-such a poor man, he acquires it on his behalf. The Sages, however, say that he must give it to the first poor man that comes along. Said Amemar (others say it was R. Papa:)

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