Mesorat%20hashas for Menachot 60:17

אלא אמר רב פפא אשידה רב נחמן בר יצחק אמר איין רב פפא אמר

if this were so then he too should have said it there. - Rather it was stated in connection with the following: R'Jose B'Kippar says in the name of R'Simeon of Shezur, If Egyptian beans had been sown only for seed<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In which case they become subject to terumah and tithes from the moment they take root; v. R.H. 13b.');">¹⁷</span> and part of them had taken root before the New Year and part after the New Year, one may not then separate terumah and the tithes from one part on behalf of the other, for one may not separate terumah and tithes from new produce on behalf of the old or from old produce on behalf of the new. What then should one do? One should collect the whole crop into one heap [and then separate the terumah and the tithes from it], so that the new produce in the terumah or tithe would be deemed to be taken in respect of the new produce that is left in the heap, and the old produce in the terumah or tithe would be deemed to be in respect of the old produce that is left in the heap. But since it was reported in that connection that R'Samuel B'Nahmani said In the name of R'Johanan, The halachah follows R'Simeon of Shezur, if this were so, then he too should have said it there! - In fact, said R'Papa, it was stated in connection with the case of the 'Chest'. R'Nahman B'Isaac said, It was stated in connection with the case of the 'Wine'. R'Papa said

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