Quoting%20commentary for Berakhot 10:9

ובנים לא היכי דמי אילימא דהוו להו ומתו והא א"ר יוחנן דין גרמא דעשיראה ביר אלא הא דלא הוו ליה כלל והא דהוו ליה ומתו.

What is meant [by childlessness] ? Is it to be supposed to refer to a man who had children but they died ? Lo, R. Johanan himself said, "This is the bone of my tenth son!" Nay, the latter teaching refers to one who never had children, the other to one who has been bereft of his children.

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