Quoting%20commentary for Megillah 48:5

ור' יהודה התם באבנתא דליבא תליא מילתא והא קא מיכוין וידע הכא משום הנאה הוא והא לית ליה הנאה

What says R. Judah to this? In that case all depends on the understanding of the heart, ... and the expounder directs his mind and knows, but here it is because of the benefit [he derives from light], and this one derives no benefit.

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