Reference for Bava Kamma 227:23

אלא לרבה דאמר בידוע נמי מחלוקת הא מני לא רבנן ולא ר"ש בלסטים מזויין ור"ש היא

exists only in average cases, but where Renunciation is definitely known to have taken place opinion is unanimous that Renunciation transfers ownership. Rabbah,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Var. lec. 'Raba'. ');">³⁸</span> however, said: Even where the Renunciation is definitely known to have taken place there is also a difference of opinion. Abaye said to Rabbah:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Var. lec. 'Raba'. ');">³⁸</span>

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