Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Reference for Berakhot 84:9

איבעיא להו ב"ש ארישא פליגי או דילמא אסיפא פליגי דקאמר תנא קמא ברך על הפת פטר את הפרפרת וכ"ש מעשה קדרה ואתי ב"ש למימר לא מיבעיא פרפרת דלא פטרה להו פת אלא אפילו מעשה קדרה נמי לא פטרה או דילמא אסיפא פליגי דקתני ברך על הפרפרת לא פטר את הפת פת הוא דלא פטר אבל מעשה קדרה פטר ואתו ב"ש למימר ואפי' מעשה קדרה נמי לא פטר

The question was asked : Are Bet Shammai in disagreement with the first clause of this teaching, or is it perhaps with the second clause? They are in disagreement with the first clause; for the first Tanna declares : If he said it over the bread, he is exempt from saying it over the dainty, so how much more [is it unnecessary for him to say a benediction] over a cooked dish ; then Bet Shammai come to declare that not only does [the benediction over] the bread not exempt that over the dainty, but it does not even exempt that over a cooked dish ! Or is it perhaps with the second clause that Bet Shammai disagree? For it teaches : [Having said the benediction] over the dainty, he is not exempt from saying it over the bread ; it is [the benediction over] the bread from which he is not exempt, but he is exempt from that over the cooked dish ; and then Bet Shammai come to say : He is not even exempt from that over the cooked dish!

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