Reference for Kiddushin 141:4

נטפל עמהם ר' חנינא בר חמא אמר להם כך מקובלני מר' ישמעאל בר' יוסי שאמר משום אביו כל ארצות עיסה לארץ ישראל וארץ ישראל עיסה לבבל

So R'Hanina B'Hama joined [issue] with them and said to them, 'I have this tradition from R'Ishmael son of R'Jose who stated on his father's authority: All countries are as dough in comparison with Palestine, and Palestine is as dough relative to Babylon.'<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., a mere declaration cannot change an historical fact.');">¹⁰</span> In the days of R'Phineas it was desired to declare Babylon as dough vis a vis Palestine.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since he was a contemporary of Rabbi (R. Judah I) , this is probably the same as referred to above.');">¹¹</span> Said he to his slaves, 'When I have made two statements in the Beth Hamidrash, take me up in my litter and flee.' When he entered he said to them, A fowl does not require slaughter by Biblical law.

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