Reference for Shabbat 58:5

ואם חברה היוצר מתחלה מותר וכו': תנא אם חברה בסיד ובחרסית מותר והאנן יוצר תנן מאי יוצר כעין יוצר:

And if we were told of these two: R. Judah rules [thus] of these because nothing interposes;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Between the lamp and the shell, which is directly over its mouth: hence R. Judah regards it all as one, even when not actually joined. ');">¹²</span> but as for a dish, which interposes,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Between the lamp and the oil. ');">¹³</span> I would say that he agrees with the Rabbis. While if we were told of that: [only] there do the Rabbis rule [thus], but in the first two I would say that they agree with R. Judah. Thus they are necessary.

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