Related%20passage for Shabbat 57:9

ואזדא ר' אליעזר לטעמיה ור"ע לטעמיה דתנן פחות משלשה על שלשה שהתקינו לפקק בו את המרחץ ולנער בו את הקדירה ולקנח בו את הרחיים בין מן המוכן ובין שאין מן המוכן טמא דברי רבי אליעזר ורבי יהושע אומר בין מן המוכן ובין שלא מן המוכן טהור ר"ע אומר מן המוכן טמא ושלא מן המוכן טהור ואמר עולא ואיתימא רבה בר בר חנה א"ר יוחנן הכל מודים זרקו באשפה דברי הכל טהור

R. Samuel b. Bar Hanah said to R. Joseph: According to R. Judah who ruled, One may fire [an oven] with utensils, but not with broken utensils, — immediately one lights with it a little it becomes a broken utensil, and when he stirs [the fuel] he is stirring something that is forbidden? — He acts in accordance with R. Mattenah: For R. Mattenah said in Rab's name: if wood falls from a palm tree into a stove on a Festival, one adds more prepared wood and lights them.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The timber that falls may not be handled by itself, since it was not destined for this before the Festival. Hence a greater quantity of wood set aside for fuel must be added, and both may be handled together. The same must be done here. ');">¹⁵</span> R. Hamnuna said: The reference here [in our Mishnah] is to [a rag] less than three [handbreadths] square,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' He holds that if it is three handbreadths square, it retains the character of a garment and is liable to defilement on all views. ');">¹⁶</span> and they taught here some of the leniencies [relating to the law] of rags, both R. Eliezer and R. Akiba following their views. For we learnt: If [material] less than three [handbreadths] square is set aside for stopping a bath, pouring from a pot,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Using this material as a holder. ');">¹⁷</span> or cleaning a mill therewith, whether it is of prepared (material] or not,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The meaning is discussed below. ');">¹⁸</span> it is unclean:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., liable to uncleanness as a garment (beged), which connotes any material that may be put to a useful purpose. ');">¹⁹</span> that is R. Eliezer's view; R. Joshua maintained: Whether it is of prepared [material] or not, it is clean; R. Akiba ruled: If of prepared [material], it is unclean; if of unprepared, it is clean. Now 'Ulla-others state, Rabbah b. Bar Hanah in R. Johanan's name-said: All admit that if it was thrown away on the refuse heap,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And then salved for one of these purposes. ');">²⁰</span> it is universally agreed that it is clean;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since it is less than three handbreadths square, and was also thrown away as worthless, it is certainly not a 'garment', even when salved. ');">²¹</span>

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