Arakhin 46

Chapter 46

א קבלן הוה הניחא למאן דאמר קבלן אע"ג דלית ליה נכסים ללוה משתעבד אלא למ"ד אית ליה משתעבד לית ליה לא משתעבד מאי איכא למימר
1 - He<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' R. Huna's father.');"><sup>1</sup></span> was a kabbelan.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' 'An acceptor'. i.e., one who assumes another man's obligation unconditionally, even though the debtor has property.');"><sup>2</sup></span> That will be right according to him who holds that a kabbelan is held responsible, although the debtor had no property [at the time of contracting the debt]. But what can be said on the view that he is held responsible only if the debtor had property, but if he has no property the kabbelan is not responsible?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since R. Huna was poor he could not have had any property, and his father consequently, though a kabbelan, could not have become liable for the payment of the kethubah.');"><sup>3</sup></span>
ב איבעית אימא רב הונא הוה ליה ואישתדוף ואיבעית אימא אבא לגביה בריה שעבדה משעבד נפשיה
2 If you like say: R'Huna had property,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' At the time his father undertook to be a kabbelan.');"><sup>4</sup></span> but it was struck with blast; and if you like say: A father, where his son is concerned, will always hold himself responsible. For it was stated: As to a guarantor for a kethubah, all agree he is not held responsible; the kabbelan for a creditor, all agree is held responsible [In the case however of] a guarantor for a creditor and a kabbelan for a kethubah, there is a dispute. There is one authority who holds that if the debtor had property he [the kabbelan] is held responsible, but if he had none he is not held responsible: whereas there is another authority who holds that even if the debtor had no property he is also held responsible.
ג דאיתמר ערב דכתובה דברי הכל לא משתעבד קבלן דבעל חוב דברי הכל משתעבד ערב דבעל חוב וקבלן דכתובה פליגי איכא למאן דאמר אית ליה נכסי ללוה משתעבד לית ליה לא משתעבד ואיכא למאן דאמר אע"ג דלית ליה משתעבד
3 The law with regard to all cases is that though the debtor has no property the guarantor is responsible, with the exception of the guarantor for a kethubah who, even though [the husband] had property, is not held responsible. For what reason? He performed a mizwah,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' v. Glos. To cause the two to get married and establish a house.');"><sup>5</sup></span> and he caused her no loss.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The woman did not advance the husband any money on the strength of the guarantee. For fuller notes v. B.B.. Sonc. ed., pp. 769ff.');"><sup>6</sup></span> There was a man who sold his possessions and divorced his wife. R'Joseph son of Raba sent her to R'Papa [with the following question]: We learnt [in our Mishnah] about A GUARANTOR'about CONSECRATED PROPERTY, what about a purchaser?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Do we suspect that the purchaser may be victimized by similar conspiracy between husband and wife? Should we therefore similarly insist that if the wife wishes to collect her kethubah from the field bought by an outsider that here, too, the husband takes a vow that he will not in future derive any benefit from his wife, so as to prevent his receiving the kethubah from her, and thereupon remarrying her.');"><sup>7</sup></span>
ד והלכתא בכולהו אע"ג דלית ליה נמי משתעבד לבר מערב דכתובה דאע"ג דאית ליה לא משתעבד מ"ט מצוה קעביד ולא מידי חסריה
4 - He replied: Shall the Tanna go on enumerating like a pedlar?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Who, praising each piece of merchandise separately. enumerates every item. The Tanna, however, need not do that. He states a principle in one or several instances, allowing for application of the precedent to new situations. Thus the case of the purchaser is covered by the first two.');"><sup>8</sup></span> The Nehardeans said: What we learnt we learnt, and what we did not learn we did not learn!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The Nehardeans would not derive the latter from the former.');"><sup>9</sup></span> Said R'Mesharshaya: What is the reason of the Nehardeans? - With regard to consecrated property the teaching is in order to safeguard the profit of the Sanctuary; also with regard to a guarantor, [the reason is] because he performed a mizwah and did not cause her any loss;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' As explained supra.');"><sup>10</sup></span>
ה ההוא גברא דזבנינהו לנכסיה וקא גרשה לדביתהו שלחה רב יוסף בריה דרבא לקמיה דרב פפא ערב תנן הקדש תנן לוקח מהו אמר ליה תנא כי רוכלא ניחשיב וניזיל
5 but as for a purchaser, since he must have known that upon everyone's possessions there is a kethubah as lien, why did he go and buy? It is he [the buyer] who caused damage to himself! <big><b>MISHNAH: </b></big>IF A MAN DEDICATES HIS POSSESSIONS TO THE SANCTUARY WHILST STILL LIABLE FOR HIS [DIVORCED] WIFE'S KETHUBAH OR IN DEBT TO A CREDITOR,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' This is a case where the divorce or the debt were effected before the consecration, so that the question of conspiracy does not arise.');"><sup>11</sup></span> THEN THE WIFE CANNOT COLLECT HER KETHUBAH FROM THE CONSECRATED PROPERTY,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Without a formal redemption of the property with a small sum, v. infra.');"><sup>12</sup></span>
ו נהרדעי אמרי דתנן תנן דלא תנן לא תנן אמר רב משרשיא מאי טעמא דנהרדעי בשלמא הקדש משום ריוח דהקדש ערב נמי מצוה הוא דעבד ולאו מידי חסריה
6 NOR THE CREDITOR HIS DEBT, BUT HE WHO REDEEMS THEM MUST REDEEM FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE WIFE HER KETHUBAH OR THE CREDITOR HIS DEBT. IF HE HAD DEDICATED NINETY MINAS WORTH OF PROPERTY, WHILST OWING A HUNDRED MINAS. THEN HE<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' He, i.e., the creditor, lends the debtor another denar, since he had consecrated his whole possessions to the Sanctuary.');"><sup>13</sup></span> [THE CREDITOR] MUST ADD ONE DENAR MORE AND HE REDEEMS THE PROPERTY FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE KETHUBAH TO THE WIFE OR THE DEBT TO THE CREDITOR'<big><b>GEMARA:</b></big> Why is it necessary to state: He who redeems must redeem'?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Why should not the woman and creditor collect their dues from the Sanctuary without any redemption, seeing that they had a prior lien on the property?');"><sup>14</sup></span>
ז אלא לוקח מכדי מידע ידע דכל חד וחד איכא עליה כתובה אמאי ניזיל וניזבון איהו הוא דאפסיד אנפשיה:
7 - That is because of the teaching of R'Abbuha, for R'Abbuha said: Lest people say consecrated property goes out [of the Sanctuary] without any redemption. Our Mishnah will not be in accord with R'Simeon B'Gamaliel, for it was taught: R'Simeon B'Gamaliel said, If his debt correspond, with [the value of] the consecrated property.
ח <big><strong>מתני׳</strong></big> המקדיש נכסיו והיתה עליו כתובת אשה ובעל חוב אין האשה יכולה לגבות כתובתה מן ההקדש ולא ב"ח את חובו אלא הפודה פודה ע"מ ליתן לאשה בכתובתה ולבעל חוב את חובו הקדיש תשעים מנה והיה חובו מאה מנה מוסיף עוד דינר ופודה את הנכסים האלו על מנת ליתן לאשה כתובתה ולבעל חוב את חובו:
8 then he redeems it, but if not, then he cannot redeem it.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If the debt and the property consecrated are of the same value, then the owner can redeem it for a little sum, for the creditor had extended the loan with that property as security in his mind. But if the sum was larger than the value of the property, then obviously the creditor has not relied on that property but upon the character of the debtor. Therefore that property cannot be considered encumbered by the debt, and hence cannot be re-obtained from the Sanctuary.');"><sup>15</sup></span> And as for the Rabbis, to what extent [must the debt correspond to the consecrated property]? - R'Huna B'Judah in the name of R'Shesheth said: Up to one half.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Rashi: If the value of the consecrated property be less than one half of the debt, the creditor receives nothing. because, as stated in n. 1, the security was the debtor's character, and he should await the latter's ability to repay the debt, but must not collect from the Sanctuary its rightful');"><sup>16</sup></span>
ט <big><strong>גמ׳</strong></big> למה לי למימר הפודה פודה משום דר' אבהו דא"ר אבהו שלא יאמרו הקדש יוצא בלא פדיון
9 <big><b>MISHNAH: </b></big>ALTHOUGH IT WAS SAID: PLEDGES MUST BE TAKEN FROM THOSE WHO OWE VALUATIONS, ONE ALLOWS<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'one gives him', i.e., of his own possessions; one permits him to retain these necessities or the means whereby to purchase them.');"><sup>17</sup></span> HIM FOOD FOR THIRTY DAYS, GARMENTS FOR TWELVE MONTHS, BED AND BEDDING, SHOES AND TEFlllin<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Glos. This is the difference between vows of valuation and the case where one consecrates his possessions. In the former case his tefillin as his spiritual tools are left to him, in the latter not; v. infra.');"><sup>18</sup></span> FOR HIMSELF, BUT NOT FOR HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN.
י מתניתין דלא כרבן שמעון בן גמליאל דתניא רשב"ג אומר אם היה חובו כנגד הקדשו פודה
10 IF HE WAS A CRAFTSMAN, ONE LEAVES HIM TWO TOOLS OF EVERY KIND; IF HE WAS A CARPENTER, ONE LEAVES HIM TWO AXES AND TWO SAWS. R'ELIEZER SAYS, IF HE WAS A FARMER, ONE LEAVES HIM HIS YOKE [OF OXEN]. IF AN ASS-DRIVER, ONE LEAVES HIM HIS ASS.
יא ואם לאו אינו פודה ורבנן עד כמה אמר רב הונא בר יהודה אמר רב ששת עד פלגא:
11 IF HE HAD MANY [TOOLS] OF ONE KIND, AND FEW OF ANOTHER KIND, ONE DOES NOT THEN TELL HIM TO SELL OF THE MANY AND BUY SOME OF THE FEW, BUT ONE LEAVES HIM TWO OF THE KIND OF WHICH HE HAS MANY AND ALL THAT HE HAS FROM THEM OF WHICH HE HAS FEW. IF ONE CONSECRATES [ALL] HIS POSSESSIONS TO THE SANCTUARY, THEN ONE VALUES<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The meaning of 'ma'alin' is debated. It is either; put up to auction so that the Sanctuary obtains a maximum benefit (Rashi) ; or, 'remove' i.e., take away, as included in his dedication (R. Gershom) . He must redeem them as one of his possessions which, in their totality. he had consecrated to the Sanctuary.');"><sup>19</sup></span> HIS TEFILLIN.
יב <big><strong>מתני׳</strong></big> אע"פ שאמרו חייבי ערכין ממשכנין אותו נותנין לו מזון שלשים יום וכסות שנים עשר חדש מטה מוצעת וסנדליו ותפליו לו אבל לא לאשתו ולבניו
12 <big><b>GEMARA: </b></big>What is the reason?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For the allowance made in the MISHNAH:');"><sup>20</sup></span> - Scripture said:
יג אם היה אומן נותן לו שני כלי אומנות מכל מין ומין חרש נותנין לו שני מצעדין ושני מגירות רבי אליעזר אומר אם היה איכר נותן לו צמדו חמר נותן לו חמורו
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יד היה לו מין אחד מרובה ומין אחד מועט אין אומר למכור את המרובה וליקח מן המועט אלא נותנין לו שני מינין מן המרובה וכל שיש לו מן המועט המקדיש נכסיו מעלין לו תפיליו:
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טו <big><strong>גמ׳</strong></big> מאי טעמא דאמר קרא
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