Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Bekhorot 119

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1

לא יאמר

he cannot say: 'I will select ten [meagre ones], take one from them [as tithe] and the rest will be exempt'.

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אברור עשרה ואטול מהן אחד והשאר פטורים

But he must bring them [all]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Both the meagre ones and the fat ones (Rashi) .');"><sup>1</sup></span>

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אלא כונסן לדיר ומוציא עשרה ונוטל מהן אחד והשאר מצטרפין לגורן אחר

into the shed, bring out ten, take one from them [as tithe], and the rest combine with those of a later tithing period.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' We are therefore taught here two things. First, that he cannot select the meagre ones alone to be tithed, and again, that, although only five lambs remain, he cannot say that they are altogether exempt but must combine them with those born at a later tithing period.');"><sup>2</sup></span>

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והתניא

But has it not been taught: If he had nineteen lambs he cannot say: 'I wil select ten, take one from them [as tithe] and the rest will be exempt'.

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תשעה עשר טלאים לא יאמר

But he must bring them [all] into the shed, bring out ten, take one from them [as tithe] and the rest are exempt?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Although he had brought all of them into the shed for tithing.');"><sup>3</sup></span>

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אברור עשרה ואטול מהן אחד והשאר פטורין

- R'Huna B'Sehorah explained this before Rab on [the Sabbath preceding] a Festival:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' When the laws of the forthcoming Festival were being expounded.');"><sup>4</sup></span>

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אלא כונסן לדיר ומוציא עשרה ונוטל מהן אחד והשאר פטורין

We are dealing here with a shed which has two doors.

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תרגמה רב הונא בר סחורה קמיה דרבא בריגלא

Nine lambs passed through one door and nine through the other, thus [the remaining lamb] is fit [to combine either with those] here or there.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Either with the nine which passed through this door or the nine which passed through the other door, the reason why it exempts the rest being that a counting properly begun redeems. The lamb itself is holy, however, on its own account whether it remains in the shed or passes through the door.');"><sup>5</sup></span>

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בדיר שיש לו שני פתחים עסקינן ויצאו ט' בפתח זה וט' בפתח זה דהאיך חד חזי להכא ולהכא

But why not explain<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And even when the shed had only one door.');"><sup>6</sup></span>

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ולישני ליה

[the Baraitha] as dealing with a case where he counted nine and when he reached [the number] ten, he called it One, [as] from the beginning?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' He did not say ten but proceeded to count, two etc. thus calling the tenth, One. Therefore the nineteenth was the tenth according to the second counting of the animals, the last ten being thus exempt through the nineteenth which is the tithe. And the first nine already counted are exempted on the grounds of a counting properly begun.');"><sup>7</sup></span>

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כגון שמנה תשעה וכי מטא עשרה קרי חד מרישא

- He holds that the tenth is holy on its own account.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Even if he called it One and did not call it the Tenth. Thus the nine lambs which remained cannot be exempted, as there is here no counting properly begun.');"><sup>8</sup></span>

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קסבר

And why not explain [the Baraitha]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Where there was only one door.');"><sup>9</sup></span>

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עשירי מאליו קדוש

as dealing with a case where e.g. , he counted [the nineteen lambs] in pairs?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' There being nine pairs and he brought out the last lamb and called it the Tenth in order to exempt the first nine and the other nine on hutrv ihbn account of .');"><sup>10</sup></span>

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ולישני ליה בגורן ומנאן זוגות זוגות

- R'Huna holds: The tenth is rendered holy by the actual number of the animals.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And it is not how one counts them, viz., one, two etc. which matters. Therefore as soon as he counted five pairs, one of the lambs becomes the tithe and the remaining nine are not exempt since the counting of them was not properly begun.');"><sup>11</sup></span>

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קסבר

R'Nahman B'Isaac said: The mother of R'Huna B'Sehorah was privileged to have a son who explained [Raba's ruling] on [the Sabbath previous to] a Festival<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Where there was a large public present to hear the exposition of the regulations of the forthcoming Festival.');"><sup>12</sup></span>

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עשירי למנין בהמות הוא קדוש

in line with Raba's teaching.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' When he says above: Thus (the remaining lamb) is fit to combine etc., which is the principle which Raba adopts, namely that of a counting properly begun.');"><sup>13</sup></span>

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אר"נ בר יצחק

<big><b>MISHNAH: </b></big>IF TWO [LAMBS] CAME FORTH AT THE SAME TIME,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' When he commenced to count them two came forth simultaneously through the width of the door.');"><sup>14</sup></span>

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זכאי אימיה דרב הונא בר סחורה דשני ליה שמעתא בריגלא כשמעתיה:

HE COUNTS THEM IN PAIRS.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And the tenth pair are holy. The same applies if they passed through in threes, fours etc.');"><sup>15</sup></span>

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<big><strong>מתני׳</strong></big> יצאו שנים כאחת מונה אותם שנים שנים

IF HE COUNTED [THE TWO]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' E.g., when he reached the sixth or the seventh (Rashi) .');"><sup>16</sup></span>

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מנאן אחד תשיעי ועשירי מקולקלין

AS ONE, THE NINTH AND THE TENTH ARE SPOILT.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' As regards offering up on the altar, for the ninth, according to his counting, is really the tenth and the tenth is really the eleventh. There is therefore (according to R. Gershom) a mixture here of tithe and a peace-offering. Consequently, the animals are condemned to pasture until blemished. The case here also is unlike the case of one who called the tenth the ninth and the eleventh the tenth, when the tenth is the tithe and the eleventh is offered up as a peace-offering, because since he counted the animals one by one it is clear that the animal he called the ninth was really the tenth, the mistake being on his part. The tenth is holy therefore without the slightest doubt, and the eleventh is also holy as the result of a Divine decree, as mentioned below. But where a pair came out in the beginning simultaneously, and instead of counting them in pairs, he counted them singly, it was not absolutely clear that the animal which he counted the ninth would be the tenth (Rashi) .');"><sup>17</sup></span>

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קרא לתשיעי עשירי ולעשירי תשיעי ולאחד עשר עשירי שלשתן מקודשין

[IF THE NINTH AND THE TENTH CAME OUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE NINTH AND THE TENTH ARE SPOILT.]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' As regards being offered up as tithe, for it is impossible to ascertain which came forth first and is consequently the tithe. Hence since we are in doubt which passed through, first both must pasture and are eaten when blemished.');"><sup>18</sup></span>

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התשיעי נאכל במומו והעשירי מעשר ואחד עשר קרב שלמים ועושה תמורה דברי ר' מאיר

IF HE CALLED THE NINTH THE TENTH, THE TENTH THE NINTH AND THE ELEVENTH THE TENTH, THE THREE ARE HOLY.

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א"ר יהודה

THE NINTH IS EATEN WHILE BLEMISHED, THE TENTH IS THE TITHE AND THE ELEVENTH IS SACRIFICED AS A PEACE-OFFERING, AND IT CAN EFFECT A SUBSTITUTE.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' It can transfer its holiness to another animal substituted for it, v. Lev. XXVII, 10.');"><sup>19</sup></span>

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וכי יש תמורה עושה תמורה

THESE ARE THE WORDS OF R'MEIR'SAID R'JUDAH: CAN THAT ONE SUBSTITUTE EFFECT ANOTHER SUBSTITUTE?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Because he maintains that the holiness of the eleventh animal is due to the fact that it is a substitute. For when he called the eleventh the tenth, it is as if he had said: 'Let this be holy instead of the tenth' and that which is already a substitute etc.');"><sup>20</sup></span>

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אמרו משום ר"מ

THEY SAID IN THE NAME OF R'MEIR: IF IT<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The eleventh animal which he called the tenth.');"><sup>21</sup></span>

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אילו היה תמורה לא היה קרב

WERE A SUBSTITUTE, IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SACRIFICED.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The eleventh is not the substitute for the tenth, for had it been a substitute it would not have been offered up, for Scripture says: Thou shalt not redeem, they are holy (Num. XVIII, 17) . And we deduce thus: They (themselves) are holy but not their substitutes. And although the text refers to the first-born, we derive the case of tithe therefrom (Rashi) . The fact that the eleventh is offered up as a peace-offering proves therefore that it cannot be a substitute and that its holiness is in its own right.');"><sup>22</sup></span>

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קרא לתשיעי עשירי ולעשירי עשירי ולאחד עשר עשירי אין אחד עשר מקודש

IF HE CALLED THE NINTH THE TENTH, THE TENTH THE TENTH AND THE ELEVENTH THE TENTH, THE ELEVENTH IS NOT CONSECRATED.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since sometimes the eleventh can receive the comparatively stringent holiness of a peace-offering, when, for example, he made a mistake and called the tenth the ninth, then in this case when he called the tenth the tenth, the eleventh receives no holiness at all. The ninth, however, will retain the minor holiness of not being eaten unless blemished, even where he called the tenth the tenth.');"><sup>23</sup></span>

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זה הכלל

THE FOLLOWING IS THE RULE: WHEREVER THE NAME OF THE TENTH [ANIMAL] HAS NOT BEEN ELIMINATED THEREFROM,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., when he called the tenth the tenth and thus there was a proper tithe.');"><sup>24</sup></span>

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כל שלא נעקר שם עשירי ממנו אין אחד עשר מקודש:

THE ELEVENTH IS NOT CONSECRATED.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Although he called it the tenth.');"><sup>25</sup></span>

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<big><strong>גמ׳</strong></big> אמר ר' יוחנן

<big><b>GEMARA: </b></big>Said R'Johanan: If he counted [the lambs] in pairs or in hundreds; the tenth in his counting becomes holy.

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מנאן זוגות זוגות קינטרן קינטרן עשירי למנינו הוא קדוש

In what counting? - R'Mari says: The holiness of the tenth is determined by his counting,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In the case of pairs, therefore, the tenth pair is holy as tithe, and in the case of the counting of hundreds, the tenth hundred is holy.');"><sup>26</sup></span>

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למנינו מאי

whereas R'Kahana says: The holiness of the tenth is determined by the actual number of animals.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' We are not concerned with his counting, and therefore in the case of pairs, the tenth animal becomes holy as tithe of itself and every tenth animal of the hundred becomes holy, making ten animals as tithes in every hundred. If, therefore, the tithes can be recognized it is well, and if not, they are all condemned until they are blemished (Rashi) .');"><sup>27</sup></span>

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רב מארי אמר

We have learnt: IF TWO CAME OUT AT THE SAME TIME, HE COUNTS THEM IN PAIRS.

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למנין שלו הוא קדוש

IF HE COUNTED [THE TWO] AS ONE, THE NINTH AND THE TENTH ARE SPOILT.

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רב כהנא אמר

Now there is no difficulty according to him who holds: The holiness of the tenth is determined by his counting; for this reason the ninth and the tenth are spoilt, and he calls the tenth the ninth and the eleventh the tenth.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' There is some holiness in the eleventh, his naming it as the tenth having this effect.');"><sup>28</sup></span>

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למנין בהמות הוא קדוש

But according to him who holds that the holiness of the tenth is determined by the actual number of the animals, it is as if he called the [certain] ninth the ninth and the [certain] tenth the tenth!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For the fact that he called the tenth the ninth and the eleventh the tenth makes no difference, and therefore why should not the tenth be the tithe and the eleventh a peace-offering?');"><sup>29</sup></span>

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תנן

R'Johanan can reply thus:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' On the explanation of R. Kahana.');"><sup>30</sup></span>

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יצאו שנים כאחת מונה אותן שנים שנים מנאן אחד תשיעי ועשירי מקולקלין

I only say [that the holiness of the tenth is determined by the counting of the animals] where he planned to bring them out in pairs, but where [as in the Mishnah] they came out [of the shed] of themselves,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The Mishnah saying distinctly: IF THEY CAME OUT etc.');"><sup>31</sup></span>

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בשלמא למאן דאמר

it is not so.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That we go according to the actual number of the animals, but the tithe also depends on the way he counts.');"><sup>32</sup></span>

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למנין שלו הוא קדוש משום הכי הוו תשיעי ועשירי מקולקלין ולעשירי קא קרי ליה תשיעי ולאחד עשר עשירי

Come and hear: If he counted them backwards,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' E.g., the first he called the tenth, the second the ninth, the third the eighth etc.');"><sup>33</sup></span>

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אלא למאן דאמר

the tenth of the counting is holy.

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למנין בהמות הוא קדוש לתשיעי תשיעי קא קרי ליה ולעשירי עשירי קא קרי ליה

Now I grant that according to him who holds that the holiness of the tenth is determined by the actual number of the animals, there would be no difficulty.

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אמר לך רבי יוחנן

But according to him who holds that the holiness of the tenth is determined by his counting, then he calls the tenth the first!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' He then calls the tenth animal the first, and if therefore we are guided by what he says why should the last animal be sacred, since he actually calls it the first?');"><sup>34</sup></span>

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כי אמינא אנא היכי דאיכוין לאפוקי זוגות זוגות היכא דנפק ממילא לא

- Said Raba: The reason is because it so happens that in the Persian system of counting that they call ten One.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Counting only the Units. Therefore what he calls the first is in fact the tenth.');"><sup>35</sup></span>

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תא שמע

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מנאן למפרע עשירי שבמנין הוא קדוש

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בשלמא למאן דאמר

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למנין בהמות הוא קדוש שפיר אלא למ"ד

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למנין שלו הוא קדוש עשירי חד קרי ליה

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אמר רבא

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הואיל ואיתיה במנינא פרסאה דקרו לעשרה חד:

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