Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Ketubot 5

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זימנין דלא אניס וסברה דאניס ומיעגנא ויתבה ומשום פרוצות דאי אמרת לא ליהוי גיטא זימנין דאניס ואמרה לא אניס ואזלא ומינסבא ונמצא גט בטל ובניה ממזרים

sometimes [it may happen] that he was not held back by an accident, and she would think that he was held back by an accident and she would be an agunah, and sit waitng for him. And on account of loose women, because if you will say [that] it should not be a divorce, sometimes [it may happen] that he was held back by force and she would say that he was not held back by force and she would go and get married, and the result would be [that] the divorce was invalid and her children [from the second marriage] would be mamzerim.

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ומי איכא מידי דמדאורייתא לא להוי גט ומשום צנועות ומשום פרוצות שרינן אשת איש לעלמא

But is there anything that according to the law of the Torah it would not be a divorce and on account of “chaste women” and on account of “loose women” we allow a married woman to the world?

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אין כל דמקדש אדעתא דרבנן מקדש ואפקעינהו רבנן לקידושי מיניה

Yes, everyone who betroths, does in accordance with the laws of the rabbis, and the rabbis have annulled his betrothal.

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אמר ליה רבינא לרב אשי תינח קדיש בכספא קדיש בביאה מאי איכא למימר שויוה רבנן לבעילתו בעילת זנות

Ravina to R. Ashi: This makes sense [if] he betrothed her with money, [but if] he betrothed [her] by act of marriage, what can one say [then]? The rabbis have made his act of marriage [an act of] fornication.

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איכא דאמרי אמר רבא וכן לענין גיטין אלמא קסבר רבא יש אונס בגיטין

There are those who say: Rava said: And so [also] with regard to divorce. Therefore Rava holds [that the plea of] force does apply to divorce. They objected:

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מיתיבי הרי זה גיטיך אם לא באתי מכאן ועד שנים עשר חדש ומת בתוך שנים עשר חדש אינו גט מת הוא דאינו גט הא חלה הרי זה גט

“Behold this is your get if I do not come [back] from now [and] until twelve months,” and he died within twelve months, there is no divorce. If he dies there is no divorce, but if he became ill there would be a divorce

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לעולם אימא לך חלה נמי אינו גט והיא גופה קמ"ל דאין גט לאחר מיתה

[That] there is no divorce after death a previous Mishnah teaches.

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אין גט לאחר מיתה הא תנא ליה רישא דלמא לאפוקי מדרבותינו

Indeed I might say that if he became sick there would be no divorce either, and [the Mishnah] teaches us this that there is no divorce after death. Perhaps [that is] to exclude from that of our teachers.

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ת"ש מעכשיו אם לא באתי מכאן ועד שנים עשר חדש ומת בתוך שנים עשר חדש הרי זה גט מאי לאו הוא הדין לחלה לא מת דוקא דלא ניחא ליה דתפול קמי יבם

Come and hear: “[This is your get] if from now if I have not come [back] from now [and] until twelve months,” and he died within the twelve months it is a divorce. Would not the same rule apply if he became ill? No, only if he died, because he did not want his wife to become subject to levirate marriage.

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ת"ש מההוא דאמר להו אי לא אתינא מכאן ועד שלשים יום ליהוי גיטא אתא בסוף תלתין יומין ופסקיה מברא ואמר להו חזו דאתאי חזו דאתאי ואמר שמואל לא שמיה מתיא

Come and hear: A certain [man] said to them: “If I do not come [back] from now [and] until thirty days it shall be a divorce.” He came [back] at the end of thirty days but the ferry prevented him [from crossing]. And he said to them, “Look, I have come [back]; look, I have come [back]!” And Shmuel said: This is not regarded as having come back.

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אונסא דשכיח שאני דכיון דאיבעי ליה לאתנויי ולא אתני איהו הוא דאפסיד אנפשיה

An accident which is frequent is different, for since he should have stipulated it and he did not stipulate it, he caused himself the loss.

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אמר רב שמואל בר יצחק לא שנו אלא מתקנת עזרא ואילך שאין בתי דינין קבועין אלא בשני ובחמישי אבל קודם תקנת עזרא שבתי דינין קבועין בכל יום אשה נשאת בכל יום

Shmuel b. Yitzchak said: They only taught this from the enactment of Ezra and after, [according to which] the courts sit only on the second day and on the fifth day [of the week]. But before the enactment of Ezra, when the courts sat every day, a woman could be married on any day.

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קודם תקנת עזרא מאי דהוה הוה הכי קאמר אי איכא בתי דינין דקבועין האידנא כקודם תקנת עזרא אשה נשאת בכל יום

Before the enactment of Ezra, what there was there was! This is what he means: If there are courts that sit now as before the enactment of Ezra, a woman may be married on any day.

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הא בעינן שקדו דטריח ליה

But what about the issue of “they watched diligently over…”? This is in a case where he already prepared [for the feast].

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