Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Menachot 133

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גלגול הקדש פוטר דתנן הקדישה עיסתה עד שלא גלגלה ופדאתה חייבת משגלגלה ופדאתה חייבת הקדישה עד שלא גלגלה וגלגלה הגזבר ואחר כך פדאתה פטורה שבשעת חובתה היתה פטורה

<br> The rolling out of dougll belonging [at the time] to the Temple exempts it [from the dough-offering]. For we learnt: If a woman dedicated her dough [to the Temple] before she had rolled it out, and redeemed it, it is still liable to the dough-offering. If [she dedicated it] after she had rolled it out and then redeemed it, it is still liable. If she dedicated it before she had rolled it out and the Temple treasurer rolled it out, and afterwards she redeemed it, it is exempt, since at the time when dough becomes liable [to the dough-offering] it was exempt.

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בעי רבא גלגול עובד כוכבים מאי מיתנא תנן גר שנתגייר והיתה לו עיסה נעשה עד שלא נתגייר פטור משנתגייר חייב ספק חייב

Raba, however, raised the question. What is the law if the dough when it was rolled out belonged to a gentile? We have indeed learnt: If a man became a proselyte and he had dough that was already rolled out before he became a proselyte he is exempt [from the dough-offering]. If [the dough was rolled out] after he became a proselyte, he is liable. If it is in doubt, he is liable. Now whose opinion is represented in this Mishnah? [Is it] the opinion of all? For even R. Meir and R. Judah who in that other case declare it liable [to the tithe], in this case declare it exempt; [their argument being that] in the other cases Scripture stated 'thy corn' several times, [each expression serving to exclude the corn of a gentile,] we thus have a limitation followed by a limitation, and wherever a limitation is followed by a limitation its purpose is nothing else but to include, so that even [the corn] of a gentile is liable [to tithe]; whereas in this case, since the expression 'your dough' is stated twice only, the one expression 'your dough' excludes the dough of a gentile, and the other expression 'your dough' excludes the dough that belongs to the Temple. Or perhaps this Mishnah represents the opinions of R. Jose and R. Simeon only who in that other case declare it exempt, but according to R. Meir and R. Judah [the dough of a gentile would be liable to the dough-offering, for they] infer this case from the other case by reason of the common expression 'the first'? - May it be the will [of God], prayed Raba, that I behold [the answer to my question] in a dream! Afterwards Raba came to the conclusion that he who holds that the smoothing of the pile of corn belonging to a gentile exempts it [from tithes], also holds that the rolling out of dough belonging to a gentile exempts it [from the dough-offering]; and he who holds that the smoothing of the pile of corn belonging to a gentile does not exempt it, also holds that the rolling out of dough belonging to a gentile does not exempt it.

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הא מאן קתני לה דברי הכל היא ואפילו רבי מאיר ורבי יהודה דקמחייבי התם פטרי הכא

R. Papa raised the following objection against Raba: If a gentile [now a proselyte] set apart the firstling of his ass, or the dough-offering, he must be informed that he is exempt therefrom; his dough-offering may therefore be eaten by non-priests, and the firstling may be shorn and put to work. It follows, however, that the terumah [that he had set apart from his corn] is forbidden. Accordingly this Tanna is of the opinion that the smoothing of the pile of corn belonging to a gentile does not exempt it [from tithes], and [yet he holds] that the rolling out of the dough belonging to a gentile exempts it [from the dough-offering]! Furthermore, Rabina raised the following objection against Raba: As to the dough-offering set apart by a gentile [now a proselyte] in the lands [of Israel], or his terumah outside the land [of Israel], he must be informed that he is exempt therefrom; his dough-offering may therefore be eaten by non-priests, and his terumah would not render [the other produce into which it may fall] subject to the laws of terumah. It follows, however, that the terumah he set apart in the land [of Israel] is forbidden [to non-priests] and also renders [the other produce into which it may fall] subject to the laws of terumah. Accordingly this Tanna holds that the smoothing of the pile of corn belonging to a gentile does not exempt it [from tithes], and yet [he holds] that the rolling out of the dough belonging to a gentile exempts it [from the dough-offering]! - It is only so Rabbinically, as a precautionary measure against men of wealth. <br>

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התם הוא דכתיב דגנך יתירא

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הוי מיעוט אחר מיעוט ואין מיעוט אחר מיעוט אלא לרבות אפילו עובדי כוכבים

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אבל הכא תרי זימני עריסותיכם כתיב חד עריסותיכם כדי עיסתכם וחד עריסותיכם ולא עיסת עובדי כוכבים ולא עיסת הקדש

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או דלמא רבי יוסי ורבי שמעון קתני לה דקא פטרי אבל רבי מאיר ורבי יהודה גמרי ראשית ראשית מהתם

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אמר רבא יהא רעוא דאחזיה בחילמא הדר אמר רבא מאן דאמר מירוח העובד כוכבים פוטר גלגול העובד כוכבים פוטר מאן דאמר מירוח העובד כוכבים אינו פוטר גלגול העובד כוכבים אינו פוטר

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איתיביה רב פפא לרבא עובד כוכבים שהפריש פטר חמור וחלה מודיעים אותו שהוא פטור וחלתו נאכלת לזרים ופטר חמור גוזז ועובד בו

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הא תרומתו אסורה והא האי תנא דאמר מירוח העובד כוכבים אינו פוטר וגלגול עובד כוכבים פוטר

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ועוד איתיביה רבינא לרבא חלת עובד כוכבים בארץ ותרומתו בחוצה לארץ מודיעין אותו שהוא פטור חלתו נאכלת לזרים ותרומתו אינה מדמעת הא תרומתו בארץ אסורה ומדמעת

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והא האי תנא דאמר מירוח העובד כוכבים אינו פוטר גלגול העובד כוכבים פוטר

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מדרבנן גזירה משום בעלי כיסים

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