Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Pesachim 199

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דילמא משבשתא היא

Perhaps it is a corrupted version.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' This Baraitha contradicts the previous one, and there is nothing to show that this is more correct, particularly as the latter agrees with the Mishnah as explained above.');"><sup>1</sup></span> Said Meremar to him - others state, R'Yemar; I visited the session of R'Phineas the son of R'Ammi, and a tanna arose and recited it<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The second Baraitha: from nine hours.');"><sup>2</sup></span>

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א"ל מרימר ואיתימא רב יימר אנא איקלעי לפירקיה דרב פנחס בריה דרב אמי וקם תנא ותני קמיה וקיבלה מיניה אי הכי קשיא אלא מחוורתא כדרב הונא

before him and he accepted it [as correct]. If so there is a difficulty?

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ולרב הונא מי ניחא והאמר רבי ירמיה א"ר יוחנן ואיתימא א"ר אבהו א"ר יוסי בר רבי חנינא הלכה כר' יהודה בערב הפסח והלכה כר' יוסי בע"ש

Hence it is clearly [to be explained] as R'Huna.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Hence 'from minhah' in the first Baraitha means just before nightfall, and thus the Mishnah and both Baraithas are in agreement.');"><sup>3</sup></span> Yet is it satisfactory according to R'Huna?

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הלכה כר' יהודה בערב הפסח מכלל דפליג רבי יוסי בתרוייהו

Surely R'Jeremiah said in R'Johanan's name-others state, R'Abbahu said in the name of R'Jose B'R'Hanina - : The halachah is as R'Judah in respect to the eve of Passover, and the halachah is as R'Jose in respect to the eve of the Sabbath.' The halachah is as R'Judah in respect to the eve of Passover, whence it follows that R'Jose disagrees on both?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Whereas in R. Huna's view R. Jose agrees in respect of Passover eve.');"><sup>4</sup></span>

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לא הלכה מכלל דפליגי בהפסקה

- No: 'The halachah [etc.]' proves that they disagree in respect to interruption. For it was taught: One must interrupt [the meal] for the Sabbath:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The Heb. is in the plural: Sabbaths. I.e., if one started eating before the Sabbath, he must interrupt the meal when the Sabbath commences, remove the table and recite grace (the table was generally removed before grace, v. Ber. 42a) , then recite kiddush, the prayer of sanctification, and proceed as with a new meal. According to a version infra 100b, the table was removed before kiddush, which then preceded grace (Tosaf.) .');"><sup>5</sup></span>

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דתניא מפסיקין לשבתות דברי רבי יהודה רבי יוסי אומר אין מפסיקין

this is R'Judah's ruling. R'Jose said: One need not interrupt [the meal].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' But he completes the meal, recites grace, and then kiddush. Now when R. Jeremiah states that the halachah is as R. Judah in respect to Passover eve, whence it follows that R. Jose disagrees there too, this disagreement is likewise in reference to interrupting the meal, R. Jose maintaining that even on the eve of Passover he need not interrupt it once he has commenced (i.e.,if he commenced at the permitted time - Rashbam and Tosaf) . But he admits that a man must not commence a meal in the first place shortly before minhah, and that is the meaning of the Mishnah too.');"><sup>6</sup></span>

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ומעשה ברשב"ג [ורבי יהודה] ורבי יוסי שהיו מסובין בעכו וקדש עליהם היום א"ל רשב"ג לרבי יוסי ברבי רצונך נפסיק וניחוש לדברי יהודה חבירנו

And it once happened that R'Simeon B'Gamaliel, R'Judah and R'Jose were dining<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'reclining'.');"><sup>7</sup></span> at Acco, when the day became holy upon them.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., the Sabbath or festival commenced.');"><sup>8</sup></span>

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אמר לו בכל יום ויום אתה מחבב דבריי לפני רבי יהודה ועכשיו אתה מחבב דברי רבי יהודה בפני (אסתר ז, ח) הגם לכבוש את המלכה עמי בבית

Said R'Simeon B'Gamaliel to R'Jose: 'Berabbi,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' A title of honour, v. Naz., Sonc. ed. p. 64, n. 1.');"><sup>9</sup></span> is it your wish that we interrupt [our meal] and pay heed to the words of our colleague Judah? ' Said he to him: 'Every [other] day you prefer my words to those of R'Judah, whereas now you prefer R'Judah's words in my very presence - "will he even force the queen before me in my house"? '<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Esth. VII, 8; i.e., will you shame me in my own presence?');"><sup>10</sup></span>

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א"ל א"כ לא נפסיק שמא יראו התלמידים ויקבעו הלכה לדורות אמרו לא זזו משם עד שקבעו הלכה כר' יוסי:

'If so,' he rejoined, 'we will not interrupt [the meal], lest the disciples see it establish the halachah [thus] for all time.'<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'for generations');"><sup>11</sup></span> It was related: They did not stir thence until they had established the halachah as R'Jose.

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אמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל אין הלכה לא כר' יהודה ולא כר' יוסי אלא פורס מפה ומקדש איני והא אמר רב תחליפא בר אבדימי אמר שמואל כשם שמפסיקין לקידוש

Rab Judah said in Samuel's name: The halachah is neither as R'Judah<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Who maintains that one must interrupt the meal, which implies that the table must be removed.');"><sup>12</sup></span> nor as R'Jose,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Who ruled that no interruption whatsoever is required.');"><sup>13</sup></span> but one must spread a cloth<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which hides the table so that it is not there, as it were.');"><sup>14</sup></span> and sanctify [the day].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' By reciting kiddush.');"><sup>15</sup></span> But that is not so, for R'Tahlifa B'Abdimi said in Samuel's name: Just as one must interrupt [the meal] for kiddush,

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