Shabbat 10

Chapter 10

א היה קורא בספר על האיסקופה ונתגלגל הספר מידו גוללו אצלו היה קורא בראש הגג ונתגלגל הספר מידו עד שלא הגיע לי' טפחים גוללו אצלו משהגיע לי' טפחים הופכו על הכתב והוינן בה אמאי הופכו על הכתב הא לא נח
1 If he is reading a scroll on a threshold, and it rolls out of his hand,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Into a public domain skirting it. ');"><sup>1</sup></span> he may rewind it to himself.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' This refers, e.g., to a threshold three handbreadths above the ground and four handbreadths square, This constitutes a karmelith (v. p. 6, n. 7), and even if it entirely falls out of his hand it is only Rabbinically prohibited to carry it back; hence here that he retains one end there is not even that. ');"><sup>2</sup></span>
ב ואמר רבא בכותל משופע אימור דאמר רבא בספר דעביד דנייח מים מי עבידי דנייחי
2 If one is reading on the top of a roof,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which is a private domain. In the East all roofs were flat and put to use; T.A. I, p. 33. ');"><sup>3</sup></span> and the scroll rolls out of his hand, — before it comes within ten handbreadths [of the ground] he may wind it back himself;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Because only the first ten handbreadths above the street surface count as public ground. ');"><sup>4</sup></span>
ג אלא אמר רבא כגון שקלט מע"ג גומא גומא פשיטא מהו דתימא מים ע"ג מים לאו הנחה הוא קמ"ל
3 if it comes within ten handbreadths, he must turn the written side inwards.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' He must not draw it back, since it has entered public ground, so he reverses it, because it is degrading for a scroll to lie open with its writing upward. ');"><sup>5</sup></span> Now, we pondered thereon: why must he turn the written side inwards, surely it did not come to rest?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Hence he should be permitted to roll it back. ');"><sup>6</sup></span>
ד ואזדא רבא לטעמיה דאמר רבא מים ע"ג מים היינו הנחתן אגוז ע"ג מים לאו היינו הנחתו בעי רבא אגוז בכלי וכלי צף ע"ג מים בתר אגוז אזלינן והא נייח או דילמא בתר כלי אזלינן והא לא נייח דנייד תיקו
4 and Raba answered: This refers to a sloping wall.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V.'Er., Sonc. ed., p. 697 and notes. ');"><sup>7</sup></span> Yet may it not be urged that Raba said this [only] of a scroll, whose nature it is to rest [where it falls]; but is it the nature of water to rest?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' It does not stay even on a sloping wall. ');"><sup>8</sup></span>
ה שמן שצף ע"ג יין מחלוקת ר' יוחנן בן נורי ורבנן דתנן שמן שצף ע"ג יין ונגע טבול יום בשמן לא פסל אלא שמן בלבד ר' יוחנן בן נורי אומר שניהם מחוברים זה לזה
5 Rather, said Raba, [R. Johanan spoke of a case] where he collected [the rain] from the top of a [water] hole. 'A hole'! But then it is obvious? — You might argue, Water upon water is not at rest;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The article must be removed from a place where it may be regarded as naturally at rest, e.g., a stone lying on the ground. ');"><sup>9</sup></span> [therefore] he [R. Johanan] informs us [that it is].
ו א"ר אבין א"ר אילעאי א"ר יוחנן היה טעון אוכלים ומשקין ונכנס ויוצא כל היום כולו אינו חייב עד שיעמוד
6 Now Raba follows his opinion. For Raba said: Water [lying] upon water, that is its [natural] rest; a nut upon water, that is not its [natural] rest.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And if one picks it up and carries it without, he is not liable. ');"><sup>10</sup></span> Raba propounded: If a nut [lies] in a vessel, and the vessel floats on water,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And he lifts up both and carries them out. ');"><sup>11</sup></span>
ז אמר אביי והוא שעמד לפוש ממאי מדאמר מר תוך ד' אמות עמד לפוש פטור לכתף חייב חוץ לד' אמות עמד לפוש חייב לכתף פטור
7 do we regard the nut, which is at rest,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In the vessel. ');"><sup>12</sup></span> or the vessel, which is not at rest, since it is unstable? The question stands over.
ח מאי קמ"ל שלא היתה עקירה משעה ראשונה לכך הא אמרה רבי יוחנן חדא זימנא דאמר רב ספרא א"ר אמי א"ר יוחנן המעביר חפצים מזוית לזוית ונמלך עליהן והוציאן פטור שלא היתה עקירה משעה ראשונה לכך אמוראי נינהו מר אמר לה בהאי לישנא ומר אמר לה בהאי לישנא:
8 In respect to oil floating upon wine R. Johanan b. Nuri and the Rabbis differ. For we learnt: If oil is floating upon wine<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Both of terumah. ');"><sup>13</sup></span> and a tebul yom<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Glos. He renders terumah (q.v. Glos.) unfit for food. ');"><sup>14</sup></span>
ט ת"ר המוציא מחנות לפלטיא דרך סטיו חייב ובן עזאי פוטר
9 touches the oil, he disqualifies the oil only. R. Johanan b. Nuri said: Both are attached to each other.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And both become unfit. Thus in respect to the Sabbath too: the Rabbis hold that the oil is not at rest upon the wine, whereas R. Johanan b. Nuri holds that the oil is at rest upon the wine. The same applies to oil floating upon water: wine is mentioned on account of the quotation, as there is no terumah of water. ');"><sup>15</sup></span> R. Abin said in R. Elai's name in the name of R. Johanan: If one is laden with food and drink and goes in and out all day,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' From private to public ground. ');"><sup>16</sup></span>
י בשלמא בן עזאי קסבר מהלך כעומד דמי אלא רבנן נהי נמי דקסברי מהלך לאו כעומד דמי היכא אשכחנא כה"ג דחייב
10 he is liable only when he stands still.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And then goes in or out; this alone constitutes removal. He was laden in the first place to carry the stuff from one part of a private domain to another, and if he goes out instead it is not removal, since when the food was moved at first there was no intention of carrying from a private to a public domain; v. supra 3a. ');"><sup>17</sup></span> Said Abaye: Providing that he stands still to rest.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' But if he stops merely to rearrange the burden, it is all part of his walking. ');"><sup>18</sup></span>
יא א"ר ספרא א"ר אמי א"ר יוחנן
11 How do you know it? — Because a Master said: Within four cubits, if he stops to rest, he is exempt; to shoulder his burden, he is liable. Beyond four cubits, if he stops to rest, he is liable; to rearrange his burden, he is exempt.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' One is liable for carrying an article four cubits over public ground, providing that he himself removes it from the first spot and deposits it on the other. Now, if he stops to rest within the four cubits, that constitutes depositing, and when he restarts there is a fresh removal; consequently, the article was carried four cubits with a single removal and deposit, and so he is exempt. But if he stops to rearrange the burden, it is still part of the first removal; therefore he is liable. Hence if he stops to rest after walking four cubits, he is regarded as depositing the article there, and is liable. But if he stops to rearrange his burden, he is still engaged in walking, and should another relieve him of it before he stops to rest, both are exempt. ');"><sup>19</sup></span> What does he [R. Johanan] inform us — that the original removal was not for this purpose?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Viz., to carry it without, and so he is not liable. ');"><sup>20</sup></span> But R. Johanan stated it once. For R. Safra said in R. Ammi's name in R. Johanan's name: If one is carrying articles from corner to corner [in private ground] and then changes his mind and carries them out, he is exempt, because his original removal was not for this purpose? — It is dependent on Amoraim: one stated it in the former version; the other stated it in the latter version.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' R. Johanan did not teach both, but amoraim reporting his words gave different versions of what he did state. ');"><sup>21</sup></span> Our Rabbis taught: If one carries [an article] from a shop to an open space via a colonnade,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The shop is private ground, the open space is public ground, and the colonnade ranks as a karmelith, being occupied by stall holders and not frequented as a public thoroughfare. ');"><sup>22</sup></span> he is liable; but Ben 'Azzai holds him not liable. As for Ben 'Azzai, it is well: he holds that walking is like standing.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' When he walks through the colonnade it is as though he stood there. Hence he performs two separate actions: (i) carrying an object from private ground to a karmelith; (ii) carrying an object from a karmelith to public ground. Neither of these imposes liability. ');"><sup>23</sup></span> But according to the Rabbis, granted that they hold that walking is not like standing, yet where do we find liability for such a case?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In Scripture, by analogy with the Tabernacle (v. p. 11, n. 2) we find liability only for direct transference from private to public ground. ');"><sup>24</sup></span> — Said R. Safra in the name of R. Ammi in R. Johanan's name: