Shabbat 11

Chapter 11

א מידי דהוה אמעביר חפץ ברה"ר התם לאו אע"ג דכמה דנקיט ליה ואזיל פטור כי מנח לי' חייב ה"נ ל"ש
1 Compare it to one who carries an article in the street: there, surely, though he is not liable as long as he holds it and proceeds, yet when he lays it down he is liable; so here too, it is not different. How compare! there, wherever he puts it down it is a place of liability; but here, if he deposits it in the colonnade, it is a place of non-liability? Rather compare it to one who carries an article [in the street] exactly four [cubits].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'from the beginning of four to the end of four'. ');"><sup>1</sup></span>
ב מי דמי התם כל היכא דמנח ליה מקום חיוב הוא הכא אי מנח ליה בסטיו מקום פטור הוא
2 There, surely, though he is exempt if he deposits it within the four cubits, yet when he deposits it at the end of the four cubits he is liable; so here too, it is not different. How compare? There it is a place of exemption [only] as far as this man is concerned, but to all others<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' To whom the limit of four cubits terminates at this particular spot. ');"><sup>2</sup></span>
ג אלא מידי דהוה אמעביר חפץ מתחלת ד' לסוף ד' התם לאו אע"ג דאי מנח ליה בתוך ד' אמות פטור כי מנח ליה בסוף ד' אמות חייב ה"נ ל"ש
3 it is a place of liability; but here it is a place of exemption for all? Rather compare it to one who carries [an object] from private to public ground through the sides of the street:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' E.g., if the wall of a private courtyard fronting on the street is broken through, the place of the wall is called the sides of the street. In 'Er. 94b (quoted below) it is disputed whether this is private or public ground; yet when one carries an object into the street through the breach he is certainly liable. ');"><sup>3</sup></span>
ד מי דמי התם. לגבי דהאי גברא מקום פטור הוא לכ"ע מקום חיוב הוא הכא לכ"ע מקום פטור הוא
4 there, surely, though he is exempt if he lays it down in the sides of the street, yet when he lays it down in the street [itself] he is liable; so here too it is not different.
ה אלא מידי דהוה אמוציא מרה"י לרה"ר דרך צדי רה"ר התם לאו אע"ג דאי מנח ליה אצדי רה"ר פטור וכי מנח ליה ברה"ר חייב ה"נ ל"ש
5 R. Papa demurred thereto: that is well according to the Rabbis, who maintain that the sides of the street are not regarded as the street; but according to R. Eliezer [b. Jacob],<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' b. Jacob is omitted in 'Er. 94b and Keth. 31a. ');"><sup>4</sup></span>
ו מתקיף לה רב פפא הניחא לרבנן דאמרי צדי רה"ר לאו כרה"ר דמי אלא לר' אליעזר (בן יעקב) דאמר צדי רה"ר כרה"ר דמי מאי איכא למימר
6 who rules that the sides of the street are regarded as the street, what can be said? — Said R. Aha son of R. Ika to him: Granted that you know R. Eliezer [b. Jacob] to rule that the sides of the street are regarded as the street where there is no fencing;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Rashi: stakes against which vehicles rub to protect the wall. ');"><sup>5</sup></span>
ז א"ל רב אחא בריה דרב איקא אימור דשמעת לר"א (בן יעקב) דאמר צדי רה"ר כרה"ר דמי היכא דליכא חיפופי אבל היכא דאיכא חיפופי מי שמעת ליה הלכך להא דמיא
7 but do you know him [to rule thus] where there is fencing?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And yet if one carries through the breach into the street he is liable. ');"><sup>6</sup></span>
ח א"ר יוחנן ומודה בן עזאי בזורק תניא נמי הכי המוציא מחנות לפלטיא דרך סטיו חייב אחד המוציא ואחד המכניס ואחד הזורק ואחד המושיט בן עזאי אומר המוציא והמכניס פטור המושיט והזורק חייב:
8 Hence it<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The case of the colonnade. ');"><sup>7</sup></span>
ט ת"ר ד' רשויות לשבת רה"י ורה"ר וכרמלית ומקום פטור
9 is analogous to this.
י ואיזו היא רה"י חריץ שהוא עמוק י' ורחב ד' וכן גדר שהוא גבוה י' ורחב ד' זו היא רה"י גמורה
10 R. Johanan said: Yet Ben 'Azzai agrees in the case of one who throws.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' From a shop to an open place through a colonnade: he is then liable. ');"><sup>8</sup></span>
יא ואיזו היא רה"ר סרטיא ופלטיא גדולה ומבואות המפולשין זו היא רה"ר גמורה אין מוציאין מרה"י זו לרה"ר זו ואין מכניסין מרה"ר זו לרה"י זו ואם הוציא והכניס בשוגג חייב חטאת במזיד ענוש כרת ונסקל
11 It was taught likewise: If one carries [an object] from a shop to an open place through a colonnade, he is liable, whether he carries [it] out or carries [it] in; or whether he reaches it across or throws it. Ben 'Azzai said: If he carries it out or in, he is exempt; if he reaches it across or throws it, he is liable.
יב אבל ים ובקעה ואיסטוונית והכרמלית אינה לא כרה"ר ולא כרה"י ואין נושאין ונותנין בתוכה ואם נשא ונתן בתוכה פטור ואין מוציאין מתוכה לרה"ר ולא מרה"ר לתוכה ואין מכניסין מרה"י לתוכה ולא מתוכה לרה"י ואם הוציא והכניס פטור
12 Our Rabbis taught: There are four domains in respect to the Sabbath; private ground, public ground, <i>karmelith</i>, and a place of non-liability. And what is private ground? A trench ten [handbreadths] deep and four wide, and likewise a wall ten [handbreadths] high and four broad, — that is absolute private ground.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Even if they are in a public thoroughfare. A house, of course, is also private ground. ');"><sup>9</sup></span>
יג חצרות של רבים ומבואות שאינן מפולשין עירבו מותרין לא עירבו אסורים
13 And what is public ground? A highroad,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Jast.: a camp. ');"><sup>10</sup></span>
יד אדם עומד על האיסקופה נוטל מבע"ה ונותן לו נוטל מעני ונותן לו ובלבד שלא יטול מבעה"ב ונותן לעני מעני ונותן לבעה"ב ואם נטל ונתן שלשתן פטורים
14 a great public square,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Or, an open place. ');"><sup>11</sup></span>
טו אחרים אומרים איסקופה משמשת ב' רשויות בזמן שהפתח פתוח כלפנים פתח נעול כלחוץ ואם היתה איסקופה גבוהה י' ורחבה ד' ה"ז רשות לעצמה.
15 and open alleys,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' i.e., open at both ends into streets. ');"><sup>12</sup></span>
טז אמר מר זו היא רה"י למעוטי מאי למעוטי הא דר' יהודה דתני' יתר על כן א"ר יהודה מי שיש לו ב' בתי' בשני צדי רה"ר עושה
16 — that is absolute public ground. One may not carry out from this private to this public ground, nor carry in from this public to this private ground; and if one does carry out or in, unwitting, he is liable to a sin-offering; if deliberately, he is punished by <i>kareth</i><span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If he was not formally warned. ');"><sup>13</sup></span> or stoned.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If formally warned. ');"><sup>14</sup></span> But the sea, a plain, a colonnade, or a <i>karmelith</i>, ranks neither as public nor as private ground:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The former, because they are not for the general passage of the multitude; the latter, because they are not enclosed. It should be observed that 'public ground' does not mean any ground that is open to the public, but that which is actually frequented by the masses. ');"><sup>15</sup></span> one must not carry [objects] about<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'carry and give,' across a distance of four or more cubits. ');"><sup>16</sup></span> within it and if he does, he is liable; and one must not carry out [an object] thence into public ground or from the public ground into it, nor carry [an object] from it into private ground or from the private ground into it; yet if he does carry out or in, he is not liable. As to courtyards with many owners<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., a courtyard into which many houses open and which itself abuts on the street. The inhabitants of these houses own the courtyard in common and must pass through it into the street. ');"><sup>17</sup></span> and blind alleys,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' These too are provided with courtyards through which the inhabitants pass into the streets. ');"><sup>18</sup></span> if an 'erub is made, they are permitted; if an 'erub is not made, they are forbidden.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For 'erub v. Glos. If the separate householders make an 'erub, e.g., each contributing a little flour for baking a large loaf, all the houses and the courtyard into which they open are counted as one domain, and carrying between them is permitted. Again, if all the courtyards are thus joined by an 'erub, carrying is permitted between the courtyards themselves and between them and the blind alley on which they abut. ');"><sup>19</sup></span> A man standing on a threshold<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' This is less than four handbreadths square, and is a place of non-liability, i.e., not a separate domain at all, but counted with public or private ground indifferently. ');"><sup>20</sup></span> may take [an object] from the master of the house, or give [it] to him, and may take [an object] from the poor man or give [it] to him; providing however that he does not take from the master of the house and give to the poor man or from the poor man and give it to the master of the house;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' This is a Rabbinical measure, lest one treat the Sabbath lightly and carry direct between public or private ground. ');"><sup>21</sup></span> and if he does take and give, the three are exempt. Others state, A threshold serves as two domains: if the door is open, it is as within; if shut, it is as without. But if the threshold is ten [handbreadths] high and four broad, it is a separate domain.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Like the trench or wall mentioned above. it is private ground, yet not part of the house, and carrying between the two is prohibited. ');"><sup>22</sup></span> The Master said: 'That is [absolute] private ground.' What does this exclude?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The emphasis suggests that only that is private ground. ');"><sup>23</sup></span> — It excludes the following [view] of R. Judah. For it was taught: Even more than this did R. Judah say: If one owns two houses on the opposite sides of the street,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Facing each other. ');"><sup>24</sup></span> he can place