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Sukkah 14

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סיכך על גבי מבוי שיש לו לחי כשרה

If one placed skhakh over an alley-way which has a side-post it is valid.

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ואמר רבא סיכך על גבי פסי ביראות כשרה

And Rava further said: If one placed skhakh over the [upright] boards around wells it is valid [as a sukkah].

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וצריכא דאי אשמעינן מבוי משום דאיכא שתי דפנות מעלייתא אבל גבי פסי ביראות דליכא שתי דפנות מעלייתא אימא לא

And [all the three laws were] necessary. For if he had mentioned only [the law relating to] the alleyway one would have assumed [that there the sukkah is valid] because it had two proper walls, but that in the case of partitions of wells, which do not have not two proper walls, the sukkah is not valid.

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ואי אשמעינן פסי ביראות משום דאיכא שם ארבע דפנות אבל סיכך על גבי מבוי דליכא שם ארבע דפנות אימא לא

And if we had been informed of the boards around wells only, one would have assumed [that there the sukkah is valid] because there are four walls, but that if one placed skhakh over an alleyway, where there are not four walls, it is not [valid].

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ואי אשמעינן הני תרתי מחמירתא לקילתא אבל מקילתא לחמירתא אימא לא צריכא:

And if we had been informed of both those laws [but not of the third,] one would have assumed that from the more stringent to the less stringent [we apply the rule of ‘since’] but not from the less stringent to the more. [Therefore all the three rules were] necessary.

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ושחמתה מרובה מצלתה פסולה:

OR WHICH HAS MORE SUN THAN SHADE IS NOT VALID.

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ת"ר חמתה מחמת סיכוך ולא מחמת דפנות רבי יאשיה אומר אף מחמת דפנות

Our rabbis taught: Sunshine due to the [lack] of skhakh, not sunshine due to [the gaps in] the wall. R. Yoshayah says: Even where it is due to [the gaps in] the walls.

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אמר רב יימר בר שלמיה משמיה דאביי מ"ט דרבי יאשיה דכתיב (שמות מ, ג) וסכות על הארון את הפרוכת פרוכת מחיצה וקא קרייה רחמנא סככה אלמא מחיצה כסכך בעינן

Rav Yemar b. Shelemiah said in the name of Abaye: What is the reason of R. Yoshayah? As it is written: "And you shall cover the ark with the veil" (Exodus 40:3). Now since the ‘veil’ was a partition and the Torah called it a ‘covering’ it is evident that a partition [for the sukkah] must be as [close] as the covering.

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ורבנן ההוא דניכוף ביה פורתא דמחזי כסכך

And as for the rabbis? — It means that the veil should bend over a little [at the top] so that it might look like a covering.

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אמר אביי רבי ור' יאשיה ורבי יהודה ורבי שמעון ורבן גמליאל ובית שמאי ורבי אליעזר ואחרים כולהו סבירא להו סוכה דירת קבע בעינן

Abaye said: Rabbi, R. Josiah, R. Judah, R. Shimon, R. Gamaliel, Beth Shammai, R. Eliezer and ‘others’ -all hold the opinion that the Sukkah must be constructed like a permanent abode.

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רבי דתניא רבי אומר כל סוכה שאין בה ארבע אמות על ד' אמות פסולה

‘Rabbi’? — As it has been taught: Rabbi said: A sukkah which is not four cubits square is invalid.

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רבי יאשיה הא דאמרן

‘R. Yoshayah? — As we have [just] stated.

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רבי יהודה דתנן סוכה שהיא גבוהה למעלה מכ' אמה פסולה רבי יהודה מכשיר

‘R. Judah’? — As we have learned:... A sukkah which is more than twenty cubits high is not valid, R. Judah declares it valid.

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ור' שמעון דתניא ב' כהלכתן וג' אפילו טפח רבי שמעון אומר ג' כהלכתן וד' אפילו טפח

‘R. Shimon? — As it has been taught: Two [walls] must be of the prescribed dimensions and the third [may be] even one handbreadth. ‘R. Shimon said: Three [walls] must be of the prescribed dimensions and the fourth [may be] even one handbreadth.

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רבן גמליאל דתניא העושה סוכתו בראש העגלה או בראש הספינה רבן גמליאל פוסל ור"ע מכשיר

‘R. Gamaliel’? — As it has been taught: One who builds his sukkah on the top of a wagon or on the deck of a ship. R. Gamaliel declares it invalid and R. Akiba declares it valid.

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בית שמאי דתנן מי שהיה ראשו ורובו בסוכה ושולחנו בתוך הבית בית שמאי פוסלין ובית הלל מכשירין

‘Beth Shammai’? As we have learned: If his head and the greater part of his body were within the sukkah and his table was within the house, Beth Shammai declare it invalid, and Beth Hillel declare it valid

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רבי אליעזר דתנן העושה סוכתו כמין צריף או שסמכה לכותל רבי אליעזר פוסל לפי שאין לה גג וחכמים מכשירין

‘R. Eliezer? As we have learned: One who builds his sukkah like a cone-shaped hut or if he propped it up against a wall, R. Eliezer declares it invalid, since it has no roof’, and the sages declare it valid.

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אחרים דתניא אחרים אומרים סוכה העשויה כשובך פסולה לפי שאין לה זויות

The ‘others’? As it has been taught: Others say: A sukkah made like a dovecote is invalid, since it has no corners.

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R. Yohanan said: A sukkah which was [round shaped] like a furnace: If twenty-four men can sit around its circumference, it is valid, and if not it is invalid

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כמאן כרבי דאמר כל סוכה שאין בה ארבע אמות על ארבע אמות פסולה

According to whom [is this statement]? According to Rabbi who says that a sukkah which is not four cubits square is invalid.

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מכדי גברא באמתא יתיב כל שיש בהקיפו שלשה טפחים יש בו רוחב טפח בתריסר סגי

Since a man occupies the space of a cubit, and where the circumference [of a circle] is three handbreadths its diameter is one handbreadth, it would therefore be enough of only twelve men [can sit around it]?

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