Sukkah 83

Chapter 83

א לא שנו אלא שלא יצא בו אבל יצא בו חייב הא מדאגבהיה נפק ביה אמר אביי כשהפכו
1 They taught [that he is not liable] only when he had not yet fulfilled his obligation, but if he had fulfilled his obligation, he is liable. But once he lifts it up, he has fulfilled his obligation! Abaye answered: This is a case] where he held it upside down.
ב רבא אמר אפילו תימא שלא הפכו הב"ע כגון שהוציאו בכלי והא רבא הוא דאמר לקיחה על ידי דבר אחר שמה לקיחה הני מילי דרך כבוד אבל דרך בזיון לא
2 Rava said: You may even say that he did not hold it upside down, but here we are dealing with a case where he carried it out in a vessel. But was it not Rava who said that taking by means of something else counts as a valid taking? That applies only [where the taking with something else is done] as a mark of respect, but not [if it is done] in a disrespectful manner.
ג אמר רב הונא אומר היה רבי יוסי עולת העוף שנמצאת בין אגפיים וכסבור חטאת העוף היא ואכלה פטור מאי קא משמע לן דטעה בדבר מצוה פטור היינו הך
3 R. Huna said: R. Yose used to say: A bird [offered as] a burnt-offering that was found among other fowls and [the priest] thought that it was a bird sin-offering, and ate it, he is exempt. What does he teach us by this ruling? That one who errs in connection with a mitzvah is exempt? But this is the same [as the Mishnah]?
ד מהו דתימא התם הוא דטעה בדבר מצוה פטור היינו דעבד מצוה אבל הכא דטעה בדבר מצוה ולא עבד מצוה אימא לא קא משמע לן
4 What might you have thought? There [in the mishnah] he is not liable when he errs in connection with a mitzvah, because he performs a mitzvah, but here where he erred in connection with a mitzvah but he does not perform another mitzvah, I might have said that he is liable, therefore he informs us [that even here he is exempt].
ה מיתיבי רבי יוסי אומר השוחט את התמיד שאינו מבוקר כהלכתו בשבת חייב חטאת וצריך תמיד אחר
5 They objected: R. Yose says: One who slaughters a daily offering which has not been properly examined on Shabbat, he is liable to bring a sin-offering and another daily offering must be offered.
ו אמר ליה בר מינה דההיא דהא אתמר עלה אמר רב שמואל בר חתאי אמר רב המנונא סבא אמר רב יצחק בר אשיאן אמר רב הונא אמר רב כגון שהביאו מלשכה שאינן מבוקרין:
6 The other answered him: That case is different, for it has been said concerning it: R. Shmuel bar Hattai said in the name of R. Hamnuna Saba who said in the name of R. Isaac b. Ashian who said in the name of R. Huna who said in the name of Rav: For instance they brought it from a chamber that contained animals which had not been examined.
ז <big><strong>מתני׳</strong></big> מקבלת אשה מיד בנה ומיד בעלה ומחזירתו למים בשבת רבי יהודה אומר בשבת מחזירין ביום טוב מוסיפין ובמועד מחליפין
7 1) A woman may receive [a lulav] from her son or from her husband and put it back in water on Shabbat. 2) Rabbi Judah says: on Shabbat they may be put it back [into the water in which they were previously kept], on a festival day [water] may be added, and on the intermediate days [of the festival the water] may also be changed.
ח קטן היודע לנענע חייב בלולב:
8 3) A minor who knows how to shake [the lulav] is obligated [to take] the lulav.
ט <big><strong>גמ׳</strong></big> פשיטא מהו דתימא הואיל ואשה לאו בת חיובא היא אימא לא תקבל קא משמע לן:
9 GEMARA. Is not this obvious? I might have said that, since a woman does not come under the obligation [of lulab] she may not take it, therefore he informs us [that she may].
י קטן היודע לנענע: ת"ר קטן היודע לנענע חייב בלולב להתעטף חייב בציצית לשמור תפילין אביו לוקח לו תפילין יודע לדבר אביו לומדו תורה וק"ש
10 A minor who knows how to shake the [lulav]. Our Rabbis taught, A minor who knows how to shake [the lulav] is subject to the obligation of the lulav; [if he knows how] to wrap himself [with a tallit] he is subject to the obligation of tzitzit; [if he knows how] to look after tefillin, his father must buy tefillin for him; if he is able to speak, his father must teach him Torah and the reading of the Shema.
יא תורה מאי היא א"ר המנונא (דברים לג, ד) תורה צוה לנו משה מורשה קהלת יעקב ק"ש מאי היא פסוק ראשון
11 What [in this context] could be meant by Torah? R. Hamnuna said: Moses commanded us the Torah, an inheritance of the congregation of Jacob. What [in this context] is meant by the Shema? The first verse.
יב היודע לשמור גופו אוכלין על גופו טהרות לשמור את ידיו אוכלין על ידיו טהרות היודע לישאל ברשות היחיד ספיקו טמא ברשות הרבים ספיקו טהור היודע לפרוס כפיו חולקין לו תרומה בבית הגרנות
12 If [the minor] knows how to take care of his body we may eat food that has been prepared in ritual purity though his body [touched it]; If he knows how to take care of hands, we may eat food that has been prepared in ritual purity even though his hands [touched it]. If he knows how to answer [questions on whether he touched any ritual uncleanliness], a doubtful case on his part that occurs in a private domain is regarded as unclean, but if in a public domain as clean. [If he knows how] to spread out his hands [in priestly benediction] they may give him terumah on the threshingfloors.
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