Temurah 11

Chapter 11

א (ויקרא כב, כג) נדבה תעשה אותו זה קדשי בדק הבית ותנן המקדיש תמימין לבדק הבית אע"פ שהוא בלא תעשה מה שעשה עשוי תיובתא דרבא
1 [Anything too long or too short that mayest] thou offer for a freewill-offering,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lev. XXII, 23.');"><sup>1</sup></span> that is, for dedications for Temple repairs,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' From which it is inferred that only blemished animals are fit to dedicate for Temple repairs, but not unblemished animals; v. infra 7b.');"><sup>2</sup></span> and we have learnt: If one consecrates unblemished animals for Temple repairs, although he infringes a negative command,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. infra 7b.');"><sup>3</sup></span>
ב אמר לך [רבא] ממקום שנתרבו בעלי מומין לגבי מזבח נתרבו תמימין לבדק הבית
2 the act is valid? This refutes Raba?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Who says that a forbidden act has no legal effect.');"><sup>4</sup></span>
ג והרי גזל דרחמנא אמר (ויקרא יט, יג) לא תגזול ותנן הגוזל עצים ועשאן כלים צמר ועשאן בגדים משלם כשעת הגזילה תיובתא דרבא
3 - Raba can answer you: From the same verse<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' From the text: 'But for a vow it shall not be accepted'.');"><sup>5</sup></span> from which you include the case of blemished animals dedicated for the altar,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which we explained above as implying that they are not acceptable but are consecrated, at least for their money value, for the altar.');"><sup>6</sup></span>
ד אמר לך רבא שאני התם דאמר קרא (ויקרא ה, כג) אשר גזל כמה שגזל
4 you include the case of unblemished animals dedicated for Temple repairs.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' As being forbidden to offer; and we thus compare the case of unblemished animals dedicated for Temple repairs to the case of blemished animals dedicated for the altar. Just as in the case of the latter, we say although there is a negative command the act is valid, so in the case of the former, though there is a negative command, the act is valid. But elsewhere, Raba maintains, a forbidden act has no legal effect.');"><sup>7</sup></span> But is there not the case of one who steals, concerning which the Divine Law says: 'Thou shalt not steal',<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lev. XIX, 13.');"><sup>8</sup></span>
ה ולאביי האי אשר גזל מיבעי ליה על גזילו שלו מוסיף חומש על גזילו של אביו אינו מוסיף חומש
5 and we have learnt: If one steals<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'he robbed', 'he took it openly by force'.');"><sup>9</sup></span> wood and makes it into vessels or wool and makes it into garments, he pays [the value of the object] as it was at the time of the theft?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., for the wood or wool alone, as we say that he obtains the ownership of the garment or vessel by reason of the change which he has effected, in spite of the forbidden act of stealing; v. B. K. 93a');"><sup>10</sup></span>
ו והרי משכון דרחמנא אמר (דברים כד, י) לא תבא אל ביתו לעבוט עבוטו ותנן מחזיר את הכר בלילה ואת המחרישה ביום תיובתא דרבא
6 This refutes Raba?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Who says that a forbidden act has no legal effect.');"><sup>11</sup></span> - Raba can answer you: The case is different there, since Scripture says: That he shall restore [that which he took by robbery],<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lev. V, 23.');"><sup>12</sup></span>
ז אמר לך רבא שאני התם דאמר קרא (דברים כד, יג) השב תשיב
7 intimating [that the restoration is to be] according to what he had robbed.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' But not according to its value at present, after being improved and changed.');"><sup>13</sup></span> And Abaye?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Who holds that a forbidden act has a legal effect. What need is there for the text: 'That which he took by robbery'?');"><sup>14</sup></span>
ח ולאביי אי לאו דאמר רחמנא השב תשיב ה"א איסורא עבד אי בעי ניהדר ואי בעי לא נהדר קמ"ל (חסר ל"א)
8 - The text: That which he took by robbery<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For the text occurs in connection with the taking of a false oath and making a confession following a robbery, for which there is the extra penalty of adding a fifth to the value of the theft.');"><sup>15</sup></span> is required in order to teach that he adds a fifth for his own robbery<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For the text occurs in connection with the taking of a false oath and making a confession following a robbery, for which there is the extra penalty of adding a fifth to the value of the theft.');"><sup>15</sup></span> but not for that of his father.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Even if he swore falsely concerning it.');"><sup>16</sup></span>
ט והרי פאה דרחמנא אמר (ויקרא כג, כב) לא תכלה פאת שדך בקוצרך ותנן מצות פאה להפריש מן הקמה לא הפריש מן הקמה יפריש מן העמרים לא הפריש מן העמרים יפריש מן הכרי עד שלא מירחו
9 But is there not the case of one who takes the pledge,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For a debt, without the consent of the debtor.');"><sup>17</sup></span> concerning which the Divine Law says: Thou shalt not go into his house to fetch his pledge<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Deut. XXIV, 10.');"><sup>18</sup></span> and we have learnt: 'He [the creditor] returns the pillow at night and the plough in the day'?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' B. M. 113a. The law applies even if he took the pledge without the warrant of the court. We see therefore that a prohibited act is valid, otherwise the pledge would not be the creditor's at all and he would have to restore the pillow even in the day (Tosaf.) .');"><sup>19</sup></span>
י מירחו מעשרו ונותן לו משום רבי ישמעאל אמרו אף מפריש מן העיסה תיובתא דאביי
10 - This refutes Raba?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Who says that a forbidden act has no legal effect.');"><sup>20</sup></span> - Raba can answer you: The case is different there,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In the Mishnah just quoted.');"><sup>21</sup></span> for Scripture says:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Deut. XXIV, 13.');"><sup>22</sup></span> Thou shalt surely restore [the pledge].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since the text repeats 'thou shalt surely restore, etc.', which teaches that the law applies also to the case where the pledge was taken without the warrant of the court; v. Tosaf.');"><sup>23</sup></span>
יא אמר לך אביי שאני התם דאמר קרא (עזב) (ויקרא יט, י) תעזוב (ויקרא כג, כב) תעזוב יתירא
11 And Abaye?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Who holds that a forbidden act has a legal effect; what need is there for the text 'thou shalt surely restore the pledge'?');"><sup>24</sup></span> - If the Divine Law had not stated 'thou shalt surely restore [the pledge]', I might have thought that he has only broken a prohibition,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' By taking the pledge without warrant.');"><sup>25</sup></span>
יב ורבא אמר לך יש לך עזיבה אחרת שכזו ואיזו זה המפקיר כרמו
12 and if he wishes, he can restore the pledge, and if he wishes, he need not. The text therefore informs us [that it is not so].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That the restoration is in every case compulsory.');"><sup>26</sup></span>
יג דתניא המפקיר כרמו והשכי' לשחר ובצרו חייב בפרט ועוללות בשכחה ובפאה ופטור מן המעשר
13 But is there not the case of pe'ah,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The corner of the field which belongs to the poor.');"><sup>27</sup></span> concerning which the Divine Law says: Thou shalt not wholly reap the corner of thy field,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lev. XXIII, 22.');"><sup>28</sup></span>
יד אמר ליה רב אחא בריה דרבא לרב אשי והשתא דשנינן כל הני שינויי דאביי ורבא במאי פליגי
14 and we have learnt:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' B. K. 94a.');"><sup>29</sup></span> [The proper performance of] the command of pe'ah is to separate from the standing corn.
טו ברבית קצוצה קמיפלגי וכדרבי אלעזר דא"ר אלעז' רבית קצוצה יוצאה בדיינין
15 If he did not separate from the standing corn, he separates from the sheaves. If he did not separate from the sheaves, he separates from the pile [of grain] before he evens it. If he has evened it,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' When it becomes subject to tithes and terumah.');"><sup>30</sup></span> he tithes it and then gives pe'ah to him [the poor man]. In the name of R'Ishmael it was said: He also separates from the dough?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And the change of name from grain does not give him ownership so as to exempt him from pe'ah. The Rabbis, however, differ from R. Ishmael and hold that the change in the name makes it exempt from pe'ah; v. B.K. 94a.');"><sup>31</sup></span> This refutes Abaye?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Who says that a forbidden act has a legal effect. The difficulty will arise if we accept the view of the Rabbis, for since he has not separated pe'ah from the standing corn, he transgresses a negative command. He ought then, according to Abaye, to be exempt from pe'ah, as a forbidden act is valid. The difficulty will even more certainly arise according to Abaye, if we adopt the view of R. Ishmael, for he goes even further than the Rabbis as regards the duty of giving pe'ah. V. Sh. Mek.');"><sup>32</sup></span> - Abaye can answer you: The case is different there,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' With reference to pe'ah.');"><sup>33</sup></span> since Scripture says: Thou shalt leave,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lev. XIX, 10.');"><sup>34</sup></span> [and again] thou shalt leave<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Ibid. XXIII, 22.');"><sup>35</sup></span> as redundant.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The extra text therefore teaches us that although the grain has changed in his possession, he does not acquire possession of it, and is still bound to separate pe'ah and to leave it for the poor.');"><sup>36</sup></span> And Raba?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Who holds that a forbidden act is not valid. What will he do with the additional text 'thou shalt leave'?');"><sup>37</sup></span> - He can answer you:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The object of the extra text 'thou shalt leave' is to teach the following.');"><sup>38</sup></span> There is another case of 'leaving' similar to this. And what is it? It is the case of one wh renounces ownership of his vineyard, for it was taught: If one renounces ownership of his vineyard and wakes in the morning and harvests it, he is bound to give peret,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Grapes fallen off during cutting, v. Pe'ah VIII, 3.');"><sup>39</sup></span> the defective grapecluster,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Heb. 'oleloth; which belong to the poor, v. ibid 4.');"><sup>40</sup></span> the forgotten sheaf<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which also belongs to the poor. And although in the normal way renunciation of ownership exempts from the duty of giving all these things to the poor, this kind of renunciation does not exempt, on account of the additional command 'thou shalt leave' mentioned in connection with peret, pe'ah, etc.');"><sup>41</sup></span> and pe'ah, but he is exempt from tithe.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For in connection with tithes there is no text 'thou shalt leave'.');"><sup>42</sup></span> Said R'Aha the son of Raba to R'Ashi: And now that you have given all these [various] answers,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The Baraithas and the Mishnahs quoted above in the Gemara either as questioning Abaye's or Raba's dictum, as the case may be, and the replies of each of these teachers explaining that, although elsewhere they maintain their own view on the subject as to whether a forbidden act has a legal effect or otherwise, the case of the particular Baraitha or Mishnah adduced was different, inasmuch as there existed a text to render it an exception.');"><sup>43</sup></span> wherein do Abaye and Raba really differ? - They differ in the case of stipulated usury<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Where the creditor arranges for a fixed amount as interest on loan. Abaye will hold that the action is valid and therefore the interest would not be reclaimed, in spite of transgressing the negative command relating to usury. Raba, however, will hold that the action has no legal effect and the interest therefore must be returned.');"><sup>44</sup></span> and will be on the lines of R'Eleazar's [statement]. For R'Eleazar said: Stipulated usury can be reclaimed through the judges,