Temurah 22

Chapter 22

א תנו רבנן יכול האומר רגלה של זו עולה תהא כולה עולה ת"ל (ויקרא כז, ט) כל אשר יתן ממנו לה יהיה קדש ממנו לה' ולא כולו לה'
1 Our Rabbis have taught: Are we to suppose that if one says: 'This foot shall be a burnt-offering' the whole animal becomes a burnt-offering? The text states: All that any man giveth of it unto the Lord shall be holy:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lev. XXVII, 9.');"><sup>1</sup></span> 'Of it<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Taken in the partitive sense.');"><sup>2</sup></span>
ב יכול תצא לחולין ת"ל יהיה קדש הא כיצד תמכר לצרכי עולות ודמיה חולין חוץ מדמי אבר שבה דברי רבי מאיר ורבי יהודה
2 unto the Lord', but not the whole of it [the animal] 'unto the Lord'. I might think that it [the animal] becomes hullin, therefore the text states: 'It shall be holy'.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That limb, and since that limb is holy, he can no longer kill the animal as hullin.');"><sup>3</sup></span>
ג ור' יוסי ור' שמעון אומר מנין לאומר רגלה של זו עולה שכולה עולה שנאמר כל אשר יתן ממנו לה כשהוא אומר יהיה קדש לרבות את כולה
3 How is one to act?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since there is a blending of hullin and dedication in the animal.');"><sup>4</sup></span> It must be sold for the requirements of burnt-offerings, and its money is hullin except for the value of its limb. This is the teaching of R'Meir and R'Judah.
ד אמר מר תמכר לצרכי עולות והא קמייתי בהמה מחוסרת אבר אמר רבא באומר הרי עלי עולה בחייה
4 R'Jose and R'Simeon, however, say: Whence do we derive that if one says, 'The foot of this animal shall be a burnt-offering', the whole animal becomes a burnt-offering? Because [Scripture] says, 'All that any man giveth of it [shall be] unto the Lord';<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' This is how the verse is rendered by R. Jose and R. Simeon.');"><sup>5</sup></span> when it further says, 'It shall be holy' this includes the whole of it [the animal].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' As being holy, because the holiness spreads to the entire animal.');"><sup>6</sup></span> The Master said: 'It shall be sold for requirements of a burnt-offering'.
ה אמר רב חסדא מודה רבי יהודה בדבר שעושה אותה טרפה רבא אמר בדבר שעושה אותה נבילה ורב ששת אמר בדבר שהיא מתה
5 But does not he [the purchaser] bring an animal [for a burnt-offering] with the loss [of limb]?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The limb belongs to the seller who dedicated it. Therefore it is found that the purchaser is not offering up a whole burnt-offering while he vowed to offer up a whole animal.');"><sup>7</sup></span> - Said 'Raba: It is a case where he [the purchaser] says: 'I undertake to bring a burnt-offering which can live'.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And even if there was a loss of that limb which had already been dedicated, since even without the limb the animal can live, his vow was fulfilled. But if the dedication was of a limb the removal of which would kill the animal, then holiness spreads to the whole animal, even according to R. Judah.');"><sup>8</sup></span> Said R'Hisda: R'Judah<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Who holds elsewhere that only the limb which is dedicated is holy.');"><sup>9</sup></span> agrees where [he dedicated] a part [of the animal the removal of which] renders the animal trefah.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That in such circumstances holiness spreads to the whole animal.');"><sup>10</sup></span> Raba says: A part [the removal of which] renders the animal nebelah.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' An animal that has died a natural death without shechitah.');"><sup>11</sup></span> And R'Shesheth says: A part [the removal of which] kills the animal.
ו מאי איכא בין רב חסדא לרבא איכא בינייהו טרפה חיה רב חסדא סבר לה כמאן דאמר טרפה אינה חיה ורבא סבר לה כמ"ד טרפה חיה
6 What is the practical difference between R'Hisda and Raba? - The difference is whether a trefah can live. R'Hisda holds according to the one who says that a trefah cannot live,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The difference of opinion is mentioned in Hul. 42b. Consequently since the animal cannot live, then he dedicated something the removal of which results in the death of the animal, and therefore he holds that R. Judah will agree in such a case.');"><sup>12</sup></span> whereas Raba will hold according to the one who says that a trefah can live.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' It is not therefore something the removal of which will result in the death of the animal. And R. Judah will maintain his opinion in the case of a trefah.');"><sup>13</sup></span>
ז ומאי איכא בין רבא לרב ששת איכא בינייהו דרבי אלעזר דאמר רבי אלעזר ניטלה ירך וחלל שלה נבילה רבא סבר לה כרבי אלעזר רב ששת לא סבר לה כר' אלעזר
7 And what is the practical difference between Raba and R'Shesheth? - The difference between them is as regards the ruling of R'Eleazar. For R'Eleazar says: If the thigh of an animal was removed and the hollow [thereof], it [the animal] is nebelah.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Although it is still alive it causes ritual uncleanness like nebelah, for it is considered as already dead.');"><sup>14</sup></span> Raba will agree with R'Eleazar,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And therefore if one dedicated the thigh and the region around, it is something the removal of which results in death, and the holiness spreads to the whole animal.');"><sup>15</sup></span> whereas R'Shesheth will not agree with R'Eleazar.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And therefore he says: With the part that kills at once, and not with a thing the removal of which will not kill the animal outright, but will leave it struggling for a while.');"><sup>16</sup></span> They raised an objection.'
ח מיתיבי אמר רבי נראין דברי רבי יהודה בדבר שאין הנשמה תלויה בו ודברי רבי יוסי בדבר שהנשמה תלויה בו לאו מכלל דפליג עליה דרבי יהודה
8 Said Rabbi: I favour the opinion of R'Judah<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Who says above that the dedication of one limb does not render the whole animal holy.');"><sup>17</sup></span> where [the dedication] is a part of the animal [the removal of which] will not result in death, and the opinion of R'Jose<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Who says above that the dedication of one limb makes the entire animal holy.');"><sup>18</sup></span> where the dedication is of a part [of the animal the removal of which] results in death'.
ט בשלמא נראין דברי רבי יהודה בדבר שאין הנשמה תלויה בו מכלל דפליג עליה דר' יוסי אלא נראין דברי רבי יוסי בדבר שהנשמה תלויה בו לאו מכלל דפליג עליה דרבי יהודה ותיובתא דכולהו
9 Now can we not infer from this that [R'Jos differs] with R'Judah [even in connection with the removal of a vital limb]? - There is no difficulty as regards the words: 'I favour the opinion of R'Judah<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Implying but not that of R. Jose.');"><sup>19</sup></span> where [the dedication] is of a part [of the animal] the removal of which will not result in death,'<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Sh. Mek.');"><sup>20</sup></span>
י לא חסורי מיחסרא והכי קתני נראין דברי רבי יוסי לר' יהודה בדבר שהנשמה תלויה בו שאף רבי יהודה לא נחלק עליו אלא בדבר שאין הנשמה תלויה בו אבל בדבר שהנשמה תלויה בו מודי ליה
10 since R'Jose does differ in this.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Where the loss of a limb does not result in death.');"><sup>21</sup></span> But from the words: 'And the opinion of R'Jose where the dedication is of a part [of the animal the removal of which] will result in death', cannot we infer from this that<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Sh. Mek.');"><sup>22</sup></span>
יא בעי רבא בעוף מהו בהמה אמר רחמנא והא לאו בהמה היא או דלמא קרבן אמר רחמנא והאי נמי קרבן הוא תיקו
11 R'Judah differs?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And holds that even in such a case the dedication of one limb does not make the whole animal holy.');"><sup>23</sup></span> Shall we say this refutes all?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., R. Hisda, Raba, and R. Shesheth.');"><sup>24</sup></span> - No. The statement is defective<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' There is a clause missing in the passage cited in the name of Rabbi.');"><sup>25</sup></span> and must be read thus: The teaching of R'Jose is acceptable to R'Judah regarding a part [of the animal the removal of which] results in death, for even R'Judah does not differ with R'Jose save in regard to the dedication of a part [of the animal the removal of which] does not result in death, but in regard to the [dedication of] a part [the removal of which] results in death, he agrees with him.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' R. Jose, that the dedication of one vital limb makes the entire animal holy.');"><sup>26</sup></span> Raba inquired: What of the bird?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' According to R. Jose who holds that the consecration of a limb spreads to the whole animal, what if one consecrated a limb, e.g., a leg of a bird; does holiness spread to the whole bird or not?');"><sup>27</sup></span>
יב בעי רבא הקדיש אבר לדמיו מהו דתיחות ליה קדושת הגוף מי אמר כיון דנחתא ליה קדושת דמים נחתא ליה נמי קדושת הגוף ומדאקדשיה לחד אבר אקדשיה לכולה או דלמא חד מגו אמר תרי מגו לא אמר
12 [Shall we say,] Scripture says 'beast,'<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In the cited verse, 'if it be a beast whereof men bring on offering (korban) unto the Lord' (Lev. XXVII, 9) .');"><sup>28</sup></span> and this is not a 'beast'? Or perhaps shall we note that Scripture says korban ['offering']<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In the cited verse, 'if it be a beast whereof men bring on offering (korban) unto the Lord' (Lev. XXVII, 9) .');"><sup>28</sup></span> and a bird is also an offering?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Like a turtle-dove, pigeon, etc.');"><sup>29</sup></span> Let it remain undecided.
יג תפשוט ליה מדידיה דהאמר רבא הקדיש זכר לדמיו קדוש קדושת הגוף
13 Raba inquired: If one dedicated a limb for its value,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' But not for dedication as such.');"><sup>30</sup></span> what of holiness as such<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Does the animal eventually become holy itself, and offered as a burnt-offering?');"><sup>31</sup></span>
יד התם דאקדשיה לכוליה הכא דאקדשיה חד אבר מאי תיקו
14 resting on it? Does one say, since one limb is dedicated the whole becomes holy for value,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The dedication in value for one limb having spread to the dedication in value for the whole animal.');"><sup>32</sup></span> and since there rests upon the animal the holiness for its value, there also rests on it dedication as such?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' We go further and say, since the whole animal is dedicated for its value we extend it so that we consider it dedicated as such. For since the animal is unblemished and is fit for a burnt-offering, what is the difference whether we sell it and for the money purchase a burnt-offering or we use the animal directly as a burnt-offering?');"><sup>33</sup></span>
טו בעי מיניה מרבא הקדיש חד אבר מהו בגיזה תפשוט לך מהא דתניא (דברים טו, יט) לא תגוז בכור צאנך אבל אתה גוזז בשלך ושל אחרים
15 Or perhaps we use a single miggo<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'since' i.e., we have to argue thus: 'Since' one limb is dedicated for its value, therefore we regard the whole animal as dedicated for its value, and 'since' the animal is dedicated for its value, we consider it also as dedicated as such.');"><sup>34</sup></span> but not a double miggo! - But why cannot Raba solve [the inquiry] from his own teaching?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That holiness as such certainly rested on it.');"><sup>35</sup></span> For Raba said: If one dedicated a male<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The reason why Raba mentioned a male is because we are dealing with a burnt-offering, which cannot be other than a male.');"><sup>36</sup></span> [a ram] for its value,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In order to purchase a burnt-offering for the money.');"><sup>37</sup></span>
טז התם לא נחתא ליה קדושה כלל הכא נחתא ליה קדושה לישנא אחרינא התם אין בידו להקדישו הכא בידו להקדישו
16 it is dedicated as such?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' It became dedicated as such and cannot be sold, for since the animal itself is fit for a burnt-offering, we use it as a burnt-offering.');"><sup>38</sup></span> - There,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' With reference to Raba's ruling.');"><sup>39</sup></span> he dedicated the whole animal,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And therefore there is one miggo. i.e., since it is dedicated for its value, we say that holiness spreads to the body itself.');"><sup>40</sup></span>
יז בעא מיניה אביי מרבא הקדיש עורה מהו בעבודה תא שמע האומר מה שבמעיה של זו עולה מותרת בגיזה ואסורה בעבודה מפני כחוש עובר שבה
17 but here,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' With reference to Raba's inquiry.');"><sup>41</sup></span> he only dedicated one limb. What therefore is the ruling? - Let it stand undecided. [Abaye<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Inserted with Sh. Mek.');"><sup>42</sup></span>
יח אמר ליה כי קתני אסורה בעבודה מדרבנן אי הכי אפילו בגיזה נמי תיתסר אמר ליה עבודה דמיכחשא גזרי בה רבנן גיזה לא גזרי בה רבנן
18 inquired of Rabbah:] If one dedicated a limb, what of the shearing?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' There is no question about working it, for it is certainly forbidden, since work weakens the limb.');"><sup>43</sup></span> - Why not solve it from what has been taught: [Scripture said:] Nor shear the firstling of thy sheep,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Deut. XV, 19.');"><sup>44</sup></span>
יט בעא מיניה אביי מרב יוסף היא שלמי' וולדה חולין ושחטה בפנים מהו למ"ד ולדי קדשים בהוייתן הן קדושין מי הוי חולין בעזרה או לא
19 thus implying that you may shear where the firstling belongs to thee and to others [gentiles]?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' So here too in the case of Abaye's inquiry, since there is hullin and dedication in the animal, the shearing should be permitted.');"><sup>45</sup></span> - There,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In connection with a firstling, in which a Jew and a non-Jew were partners.');"><sup>46</sup></span> no holiness rested on it at all,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The law of a firstling not applying in this instance.');"><sup>47</sup></span> but here, holiness rested on it [the limb]. Another version: There,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' With reference to the firstling.');"><sup>48</sup></span> he has not the power to dedicate it,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since the gentile has a share in the firstling.');"><sup>49</sup></span> whereas here,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Where he dedicates a limb of an animal.');"><sup>50</sup></span> he has the power to dedicate[the rest of the animal]. Abaye inquired of Rabbah: If one dedicated the skin of an animal, what of working [the animal]?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' There is no question about shearing, as the skin is not weakened thereby, whereas working the animal does weaken the skin. The inquiry can be even according to R. Jose, for although if one dedicated a foot the whole animal becomes holy, the reason may be because a foot can be offered up, unlike the skin (sh. Mek) .');"><sup>51</sup></span> - Come and hear: If one says, 'Whatever is in the inside of this animal shall be a burnt-offering', shearing is permitted, but work [with it] is forbidden on account of the weakening of the embryo within!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And here too there is a weakening of the skin and therefore work should be forbidden.');"><sup>52</sup></span> - He replied to him: When [the Baraitha just quoted] states 'but work with it is forbidden', it means Rabbinically.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Whereas our inquiry here as regards the dedication of the skin is whether it is forbidden Scripturally, so as to incur the penalty of lashes.');"><sup>53</sup></span> If so, the shearing too should be forbidden?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Rabbinically, in the case of the embryo.');"><sup>54</sup></span> - He said to him: Work [with the embryo] which weakens it, the Rabbis prohibited, but shearing, the Rabbis did not prohibit. Abaye inquired of R'Joseph: If it [the mother] is a peace-offering and its embryo is hullin<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If one dedicated a pregnant animal without its embryo, when according to all the authorities concerned, the embryo is not holy.');"><sup>55</sup></span> and he slaughtered [the mother] within [the Temple court], what is the ruling?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Is the embryo forbidden because he slaughtered hullin in the Temple court. Tosaf. suggests that this inquiry can be solved from the Baraitha, supra 11a, where it says: 'If one slaughtered a sin-offering and found a four months' old embryo alive', implying that there is no prohibition here of slaughtering hullin in the Temple court. Sh. Mek. however, comments in this connection that there may be a difference between an embryo which has not completed its months of pregnancy, as in the case of the Baraitha, and an embryo which has completed its months of pregnancy, which is the case of our inquiry here.');"><sup>56</sup></span> According to the one who holds that offspring of dedications are holy at birth and not before, have we here a case of [slaughtering] hullin in the Temple court<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since he did not dedicate the embryo, for he dedicated the animal before its pregnancy and therefore the embryo remains hullin until its birth.');"><sup>57</sup></span> or not?