Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Temurah 49

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אמאי אין קדושה חלה עליהן

<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Omitting with Wilna Gaon: 'But why does not holiness attach to them', cf. cur. edd. Since this clause refers even to the offspring of dedications, why should not at least the holiness of their mother rest on them (Rashi) .');"><sup>1</sup></span>

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קסבר רשב"ג

R'Simeon B'Gamaliel holds: The offspring of dedications become holy at birth,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And when they are born they are already unfit and hence cannot receive any holiness at all.');"><sup>2</sup></span>

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ולדות קדשים בהוייתן הן קדושין

for if we were to think that they are holy from [the time of their existence] inside their mother, why should not holiness attach to them [tumtum etc.] since they receive the holiness of their mother?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' From the time when they begin to develop little by little in the inside of their mother, they should be holy.');"><sup>3</sup></span>

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דאי ס"ד ממעי אמן הן קדושין אמאי אין קדושה חלה עליהן

But in fact this proves that the offspring of dedications become holy at birth.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And the whole Mishnah will be the opinion of R. Simeon.');"><sup>4</sup></span>

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הא תפסתינהו קדושה דאימייהו

And the [following] Tanna holds that the offspring of dedications are holy from [the time of their existence] in the inside of their mother.

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אלא ש"מ

For our Rabbis have taught: If it had been said only.

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ולדי קדשים בהוייתן הן קדושים

A firstling shal not sanctify.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Referring to the text (Lev. XXVII, 26) : Howbeit the firstling among the beasts which is born as a firstling unto the Lord, no man shall sanctify rufc it; the Heb. denotes equally firstborn and firstling of an animal.');"><sup>5</sup></span>

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והאי תנא סבר

I might have thought that a firstborn [of man] must not make dedications.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Taking 'bekor' to denote a firstborn of any kind.');"><sup>6</sup></span>

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ולדי קדשים ממעי אמן הן קדושים

The text therefore adds: 'No man shall sanctify it',<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The text therefore will mean this: Howbeit the bekor i.e., the firstborn of a man, that which is born a firstling unto the Lord, he shall not sanctify it, implying that the firstborn may not sanctify a firstling for another dedication.');"><sup>7</sup></span>

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דת"ר

implying that it [the firstling animal] he must not sanctify [for another dedication] but a firstborn [of man may] make dedications.

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אילו (לא) נאמר בכור לא יקדיש הייתי אומר בכור לא יקדיש הקדישות

But I might still have said that he [a firstborn] must not sanctify [a firstling for another dedication] but others may do so.

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ת"ל

The text therefore states: 'Among the beasts' [saying in effect]: My concern is with a beast.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I refer here only to the firstling of a beast which 'bekor' here denotes, and thus state that no man may consecrate it for another dedication.');"><sup>8</sup></span>

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(ויקרא כז, כו) איש אותו אותו אי אתה מקדיש אבל מקדיש אדם בכור הקדישות

One might think that he cannot sanctify it [the firstling] even while it is in the inside of the animal [for another dedication]?

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ועדיין אני אומר

The text therefore states: 'As firstling to the Lord', implying, when it becomes 'a firstling to the Lord'<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., at birth, after the sanctification by the womb, but as long as it is in the inside of the animal it is hullin.');"><sup>9</sup></span>

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הוא לא יקדיש אבל יקדישוהו אחרים

you must not sanctify it [for another dedication], but you may sanctify the firstling [for another dedication] while it is in the inside of th animal.

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ת"ל

One might have thought that the same applies to the young of all dedications?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That one is permitted to change it for another dedication when inside the animal. t');"><sup>10</sup></span>

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בבהמה בבהמה עסקתי

The text therefore states: 'Howbeit', thus intimating a division.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' This is the regular force of the word ('howbeit') . The division here indicated is between the case of a firstling and that of other dedications. Only in the case of a firstling may one make dedication prior to the animal becoming a legal firstling but not in the case of other dedications in the inside of an animal, for since the mother is holy, with every portion which forms in the womb the offspring receives the holiness of the mother.');"><sup>11</sup></span>

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יכול לא יקדישנו בבטן

Consequently we see that [this Tanna] holds that the young of dedicated [animals] are holy [from the time] that they commence to exist in the inside of their mothers.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Unlike the view of the Tanna in the MISHNAH:');"><sup>12</sup></span>

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ת"ל

Said R'Amram to R'Shesheth: If one says of a firstling at the moment that the greater part of it was emerging from the womb:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' While still inside the animal, at the time when the holiness of a firstling takes effect.');"><sup>13</sup></span>

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(ויקרא כז, כו) אשר יבוכר לה' משיבוכר לה' אי אתה מקדיש אבל אתה מקדיש בבטן

'Let it be a burnt-offering', is it a burnt-offering<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Being wholly burnt on the altar.');"><sup>14</sup></span>

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יכול אף ולדי כל הקדשים כן

or a legal firstling?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since the holiness of a firstling rests on all firstlings that leave the womb. Which holiness is more stringent so as to have a prior effect on it and cancel the other?');"><sup>15</sup></span>

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ת"ל

Is it a burnt-offering, since every portion which came forth [from the womb] is wholly burnt on the altar, or is it a legal firstling as every portion which came forth [from the womb] retains its original sanctity?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That of a firstling.');"><sup>16</sup></span>

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אך חלק

Another version: Is [the firstling] a burntoffering, since this is a [stringent]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. R. Gershom.');"><sup>17</sup></span>

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אלמא ס"ל

holiness and therefore has effect on it, o is it a legal firstling, since its holiness commences from the womb?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The holiness of a firstling takes effect on all firstlings from the time of leaving the womb without a special dedication.');"><sup>18</sup></span>

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ולדי קדשים ממעי אמן הן קדושין

- He said to him: Why do you inquire?

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א"ל רב עמרם לרב ששת

Is this not identical with the inquiry of Ilfa [as follows]: If one says in connection with leket<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The gleanings from a field which are due to the poor.');"><sup>19</sup></span>

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אמר על הבכור עם יציאת רובו עולה עולה הוי או בכור הוי

when the greater part [of the produce] has been plucked:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And the gleanings have actually become leket.');"><sup>20</sup></span>

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עולה הוי דכל פורתא ופורתא דקא נפיק הוא כליל

Let it be hefker,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' 'Ownerless'. And free alike for the rich as for the poor.');"><sup>21</sup></span>

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או בכור הוי דכל פורתא ופורתא דקא נפיק במילתיה הוא

is it leket or is it free?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which takes effect hefker or leket? Now there can be no question that if he made the produce free for everyone before the greater part of it was plucked, there would be no need to carry out the law of leket, since leket only applies to what is looked after and eaten.');"><sup>22</sup></span>

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ל"א

Is it leket since its holiness is derived from heaven,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' A divine decree.');"><sup>23</sup></span>

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שכן קדושה חיילא עליה או דלמא

or is it ownerless, since poor and rich acquire possession thereof? - And Abaye explained: What is this query?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' As both leket and hefker came together, surely leket is the more important law to observe.');"><sup>24</sup></span>

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בכור הוי שכן קדושתו מרחם

Whose word do we obey?

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א"ל

That of the Divine Master or of the pupil?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And the Master, God, has decreed that it is leket.');"><sup>25</sup></span>

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מאי תיבעי לך

Similarly here also, whose word do we obey?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Surely that of the Divine Master, and therefore the law of the firstling operates first.');"><sup>26</sup></span>

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היינו דבעי אילפא

<big><b>MISHNAH: </b></big>IF ONE SAYS: THE YOUNG OF THIS [PREGNANT ANIMAL]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Of hullin.');"><sup>27</sup></span>

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אמר על הלקט

SHALL BE A BURNT-OFFERING AND IT [THE ANIMAL ITSELF] SHALL BE A PEACE-OFFERING, HIS WORDS STAND.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The young becomes a burnt-offering and its mother a peace. offering, since the holiness of the young animal came first.');"><sup>28</sup></span>

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עם נשירת רובו יהא הפקר לקט הוי או הפקר הוי

BUT IF HE SAYS [FIRST]: IT [THE ANIMAL] SHALL BE A PEACE-OFFERING<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' This implies the dedication of the animal and what is inside it. Its offspring is therefore important enough to be dedicated independently and it is like one dedicating two animals for peace-offerings.');"><sup>29</sup></span>

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לקט הוי שכן קדושתו בידי שמים

[AND THEN], AND ITS YOUNG SHALL BE A BURNT-OFFERING,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' This is of no avail as he is not able to change the form of dedication.');"><sup>30</sup></span>

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או דלמא הפקר הוי שכן זוכין בו עניים ועשירים

[ITS YOUNG] IS REGARDED AS THE YOUNG OF A PEACE-OFFERING.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' As R. Meir holds that we accept the first statement. And here the principle of holiness commencing only at birth does not apply, as this only refers to a case where the animal became pregnant subsequent to dedication, but where one dedicates a pregnant animal, the embryo is considered apart from its mother and is able to receive holiness on its own account.');"><sup>31</sup></span>

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ואמר אביי

THIS IS THE TEACHING OF R'MEIR'R'JOSE SAYS: IF HE INTENDED [TO SAY] THIS<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Its young shall be a burnt-offering and the mother a peace-offering.');"><sup>32</sup></span>

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מאי תיבעי ליה

AT FIRST,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Although he made a mistake and said: It shall be a peace-offering and its young a burnt-offering.');"><sup>33</sup></span>

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דברי הרב ודברי תלמיד דברי מי שומעים

SINCE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO MENTION BOTH KINDS [OF SACRIFICES] SIMULTANEOUSLY,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since one has to mention one sacrifice before the other.');"><sup>34</sup></span>

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ה"נ

HIS WORDS STAND;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since he really did not intend that both shall be peace-offerings,and therefore the mother is a peace-offering and the young is a burnt-offering.');"><sup>35</sup></span>

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דברי מי שומעים

BUT IF AFTER HE ALREADY SAID [INTENTIONALLY]: THIS SHALL BE A PEACE-OFFERING, HE CHANGES HIS MIND AND SAYS: ITS YOUNG SHALL BE A BURNT-OFFERING, [ITS YOUNG] IS REGARDED AS THE YOUNG OF A PEACE-OFFERING.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' His latter statement being of no consequence, since he meant at first that both should be peace-offerings.');"><sup>36</sup></span>

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<big><strong>מתני׳</strong></big> האומר ולדה של זו עולה והיא שלמים דבריו קיימים

<big><b>GEMARA: </b></big>Said R'Johanan: If one set aside a pregnant sin-offering and it gave birth, if he wishes he can obtain atonement through it [the animal itself], and if he wishes, he can obtain atonement through its young.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' We only apply the principle of the young of a sin-offering being condemned to die in a case where one dedicated an animal and it became pregnant afterwards, but where he dedicated a pregnant sin-offering, the embryo can receive holiness independently, apart from its mother, and thus he can procure atonement through whichever animal he chooses.');"><sup>37</sup></span>

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היא שלמים וולדה עולה הרי זה ולד זבחי שלמים דברי ר"מ

What is the reason? - R'Johanan holds that if he left over [the young]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Where he says that the offspring should be hullin and the mother shall be a sin-offering. Therefore even where he did not leave over the embryo, i.e., did not declare it hullin, its holiness is still not derived through its mother.');"><sup>38</sup></span>

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א"ר יוסי

the act is valid,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'it is left over' as regards holiness, i.e., the young remains hullin.');"><sup>39</sup></span>

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אם לכן נתכוין תחלה הואיל ואי אפשר לקרות שני שמות כאחת דבריו קיימין

and an embryo is not regarded as part of the thigh of its mother.

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ואם משאמר הרי זו שלמים נמלך ואמר ולדה עולה הרי זו ולדה שלמים

The case therefore is like one who sets aside two sin-offerings for security's sake, where if he wishes, he can obtain atonement through it [the one animal], and if he wishes, through the other.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And the sin-offering which he does not use is condemned to pasture.');"><sup>40</sup></span>

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<big><strong>גמ׳</strong></big> א"ר יוחנן

R'Eleazar raised an objection: IT SHALL BE A PEACE-OFFERING AND ITS YOUNG SHALL BE A BURNT-OFFERING, [ITS YOUNG] IS REGARDED AS THE YOUNG OF A PEACE- OFFERING.

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הפריש חטאת מעוברת וילדה רצה בה מתכפר רצה בולדה מתכפר

Now if we assume that if he left over [the young] the act is valid, why does it say: ITS YOUNG IS REGARDED AS THE YOUNG OF A PEACE-OFFERING?

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מ"ט

Should it not say: 'Its young is a peace-offering'?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since it is holy on its own account, and not because of its mother. The Mishnah therefore in saying: It is regarded as the young of a peace-offering, implies that its holiness is due to its mother and therefore in the case also where one set aside a pregnant sin-offering, it is regarded as the offspring of a sin-offering, the law of which is that it is condemned to die.');"><sup>41</sup></span>

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קסבר ר' יוחנן

- Said R'Tabla: Ask no question from this [Mishnah],<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'except from this'.');"><sup>42</sup></span>

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אם שיירו משוייר עובר לאו ירך אמו הוא

since Rab said to the Tanna:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Glos. s.v. (a) .');"><sup>43</sup></span>

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דהוה ליה כמפריש שתי חטאות לאחריות רצה מתכפר בה רצה מתכפר בחבירתה

Recite [as follows]: 'Its young is a peace-offering'.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' We see therefore that the reading in our Mishnah is not a correct one, and no question can be raised from it.');"><sup>44</sup></span>

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מותיב רבי אלעזר

An objection was raised: If one says to his [pregnant] bondwoman, 'Be thou a slave but thy child shall be free', if she was pregnant she obtains [freedom] in his behalf.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And the child goes out free; v. Git. 23b.');"><sup>45</sup></span>

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היא שלמים וולדה עולה הרי זה ולד שלמים

Now this creates no difficulty if you hold that if one left over [the young]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And the mother and its young are not regarded as two separate entities.');"><sup>46</sup></span>

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ואי סלקא דעתך שיירו משוייר הרי זה ולד שלמים

the action is not valid, and that an embryo is considered as the thigh of its mother; for this reason she obtains [freedom] in his behalf, since it is on a par with the case of one who freed a half of his slave,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Where the slave acquires possession of that half, and so here the bondwoman is privileged to secure the freedom of her child.');"><sup>47</sup></span>

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הרי זו שלמים בעי מיתנא

and this will represent the opinion of Rabbi,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' So .Sh. Mek.; cur. edd. R. Meir.');"><sup>48</sup></span>

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אמר רב טבלא

as it has been been taught:

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בר מינה דההיא הא אמר רב לתנא תני

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הרי זו שלמים

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מיתיבי

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האומר לשפחתו הרי את שפחה וולדך בן חורין אם היתה עוברה זכתה לו

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אי אמרת בשלמא אם שיירו אינו משוייר עובר ירך אמו מש"ה זכתה לו והוי ליה כמשחרר חצי עבדו ומני ר' מאיר היא

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כדתניא

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