Temurah 59

Chapter 59

א רבי אלעזר היא דאמר פנוי הבא על הפנויה שלא לשום אישות עשאה זונה אי ר' אלעזר מאי איריא אלמנה ניתני פנויה
1 R'Eleazar, who said: If an unmarried man has intercourse with an unmarried woman without the intention thereby of making her his wife, he makes her a harlot.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And therefore the hire is forbidden, whereas Abaye will hold the opinion of the Rabbis who dispute with R. Eleazar.');"><sup>1</sup></span> If [the Baraitha] represents the opinion of R'Eleazar, why take the case of a widow for a High Priest?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In the latter clause of the Baraitha.');"><sup>2</sup></span> Why not take the case of an unmarried woman? - It was necessary to take the case of a widow [for a High Priest]. [For otherwise] you might think that since this<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The case mentioned by R. Eleazar.');"><sup>3</sup></span>
ב אלמנה איצטריך סלקא דעתך אמינא הואיל ובנין אב הוא לא ניתסרו קא משמע לן
2 is the typical case<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If the case of an unmarried man who had intercourse with an unmarried woman had been taken, I might have regarded it as typical, and said that only where there is no prohibition as regards intercourse is the hire forbidden, but where intercourse is prohibited hire is not forbidden, and therefore in the case of a widow for a High Priest etc. the hire is not forbidden. The Baraitha therefore takes as example the case of a widow for a High Priest, etc.');"><sup>4</sup></span> the [other cases] are not forbidden.
ג האומר לחבירו הא לך טלה זה כו' והא שפחה לעבד מישרא שריא אמר רב הונא אצלו קאמר והא דקתני [עבד] לישנא מעליא קאמר
3 [The Baraitha] informs us [that it is not so]. IF ONE SAYS TO HIS FELLOW: HERE IS THIS LAMB FOR YOU etc. But is not a bondwoman permitted for a slave?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Why therefore do the Rabbis hold in our Mishnah that the lamb is a harlot's hire?');"><sup>5</sup></span> - Said R'Huna: [The Mishnah means] for himself,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., the Israelite. And as regards himself, he is forbidden to have intercourse with a bondwoman.');"><sup>6</sup></span> and the reason why it Says, MY SLAVE is because it is a more refined expression to use.
ד אי הכי מ"ט דרבי אמר שמואל בר רב יצחק לעולם עבדי וכי קתני בעבד עברי
4 If this is so, what is the reason of R'Meir?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Who says in the Mishnah that it is not a harlot's hire. V. Bah.');"><sup>7</sup></span> - Said Samuel son of R'Isaac:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Var. lec. b. Nahmani.');"><sup>8</sup></span> One can still say that the Mishnah actually means, MY SLAVE, and it refers to a Hebrew slave.
ה אי הכי מ"ט דרבנן שפחה לעבד עברי מישרא שריא הכא במאי עסקינן כגון דלית ליה אשה ובנים דתניא אין לו אשה ובנים אין רבו מוסר לו שפחה כנענית יש לו אשה ובנים רבו מוסר לו שפחה כנענית
5 If this is so, what is the reason of the Rabbis, since a bondwoman is permitted for a Hebrew slave? - The case here is where he does not possess a wife and children. For it has been taught: If a Hebrew slave does not possess a wife and children, his master cannot hand over a Canaanitish slave to him,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Because Scripture says: If he came in by himself, he should go out by himself (Ex. XXI, 3) . R. Meir, who says that it is not a harlot's hire, does not however agree to this and holds that even if the Hebrew slave has no wife and children, his master can hand over a Canaanitish slave to him.');"><sup>9</sup></span> but if he possesses a wife and children, his master can hand over a Canaanitish slave to him. <big><b>MISHNAH: </b></big>AND WHAT IS MEANT BY THE PRICE OF A DOG?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Deut. XXIII, 19.');"><sup>10</sup></span>
ו <big><strong>מתני׳</strong></big> ואיזהו מחיר כלב האומר לחבירו הוליך טלה זה תחת כלב
6 IF ONE SAYS TO HIS FELLOW, HERE IS THIS LAMB INSTEAD OF [THIS] DOG.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The lamb is forbidden for the altar as 'price of a dog'.');"><sup>11</sup></span> AND LIKEWISE IF TWO PARTNERS DIVIDED [AN ESTATE] AND ONE TOOK TEN LAMBS AND THE OTHER NINE AND A DOG, ALL THOSE TAKEN INSTEAD OF THE DOG ARE FORBIDDEN [FOR THE ALTAR],<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since one can describe each lamb as the equivalent and price of the dog.');"><sup>12</sup></span>
ז וכן שני שותפין שחלקו אחד נטל עשרה ואחד תשעה וכלב שכנגד הכלב אסור ושעם הכלב מותר
7 BUT THOSE TAKEN WITH A DOG ARE LEGITIMATE [FOR THE ALTAR]. THE HIRE OF A DOG<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If one gave a lamb to his neighbour in order to allow him to abuse his dog.');"><sup>13</sup></span>
ח אתנן הכלב ומחיר זונה הרי אלו מותרין שנאמ' שנים ולא ארבעה ולדותיהן מותרין הן ולא ולדותיהן
8 AND THE PRICE OF A HARLOT<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The price obtained for selling a harlot.');"><sup>14</sup></span> ARE LEGITIMATE [FOR THE ALTAR], SINCE IT SAYS: [FOR EVEN] BOTH [OF THESE]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Deut. XXIII, 19.');"><sup>15</sup></span>
ט <big><strong>גמ׳</strong></big> ת"ר מחיר כלב זהו חליפי כלב וכן הוא אומר (תהלים מד, יג) תמכר עמך בלא הון ולא רבית במחיריהם
9 'BOTH' BUT NOT FOUR.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And there are no other cases where the lamb is forbidden in such circumstances. Now to add the cases of hire of a dog and price of a harlot would be to make four cases.');"><sup>16</sup></span> THEIR ISSUE<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. of the lamb received as harlot's hire or price of a dog.');"><sup>17</sup></span> ARE LEGITIMATE [FOR THE ALTAR SINCE IT SAYS]: [BOTH OF THESE,] IMPLYING THEY<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The emphasis is on 'these'.');"><sup>18</sup></span>
י אימא אתנן זונה (א"כ לא קרב הוו תלתא (דברים כג, יט) גם שניהם ולא שלשה)
10 BUT NOT THEIR ISSUE. <big><b>GEMARA: </b></big>Our Rabbis have taught: 'A mekir of a dog',<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' 'The price of a dog'.');"><sup>19</sup></span>
יא מי קאמרינן אנן אתנן ומחיר אתנן ולא מחיר קאמרינן
11 this refers to that taken in exchange for a dog. And likewise it says:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Ps. XLIV, 13.');"><sup>20</sup></span>
יב א"כ נימא קרא לא תביא אתנן זונה וכלב מדכתיב אתנן זונה ומחיר כלב ש"מ
12 Thou sellest thy people for naught and hast not set high their price.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The term used is mehir. We therefore see that mehir means 'the price'.');"><sup>21</sup></span>
יג השותפין שחלקו אחד נטל כו' ניפוק חדא להדי כלבא והנך כולהו לישתרו הכא במאי עסקינן כגון דטפי דמי כלב מחד מינייהו והאי טיפונא דכלב שדי בכולהו
13 And why not say [that mekir means] the hire [of a dog]?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For this reading cf. Rashi and Wilna Gaon.');"><sup>22</sup></span> - The text 'both' implies, but not three.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And by adding the case of hire of a dog there would be three cases of abomination.');"><sup>23</sup></span> But did we suggest the hire and the price of a dog; what we suggested is that [it means] the hire and not the price? - If so, let Scripture say: Thou shalt not bring the hire of a harlot and a dog.
יד אתנן כלב ומחיר זונה מותר כו' א"ל רבא מפרזקיא לרב אשי
14 Since Scripture says: Th hire of a harlot or the price of a dog, you can prove from here [that it means the price but not the hire of a dog]. PARTNERS WHO DIVIDED [THEIR ESTATE] AND ONE TOOK etc. But why not take out [one lamb] for the dog, and all the remaining [lambs] should then be legitimate [for the altar]? - We are dealing here with a case where the value of the dog was greater than the value of any one [of the corresponding lambs] and this additional amount is distributed over all [the corresponding lambs].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Where not one of the corresponding lambs is of equal value to the dog, some of the additional value of the dog is extended to each of the opposite lambs. E.g., suppose that each of the corresponding lambs was worth a denar, making altogether ten denars and each of the nine lambs with the dog was worth a denar minus a ma'ah (v. Glos.) , the dog thus being worth one denar plus nine ma'ah. Then nine of the opposite lambs are regarded as possessing something of the value of the dog, while the tenth lamb just corresponds to what is left of it. The Jerushalmi explains this as follows: If the ten lambs are each worth four zuz and a tenth, making a total of forty-one zuz, and the dog is worth five zuz, then the nine remaining lambs with it are worth thirty-six zuz or four zuz each, one tenth of a zuz less than each of the others. Hence each lamb in one set is the equivalent of each of the nine opposite lambs plus the tenth of a zuz, and this tenth is the equivalent of a portion of the dog and therefore causes them all to be forbidden for the altar as 'the price of a dog'.');"><sup>24</sup></span> THE HIRE OF A DOG AND THE PRICE OF A HARLOT ARE LEGITIMATE etc. Said Raba of Parzakia<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Farausag, near Nehardea.');"><sup>25</sup></span> to R'Ashi: