יא <br><br><big><strong>הדרן עלך טרף בקלפי</strong></big><br><br>
11 in the other case it was snatched away' from the altar for its ordained use. Some there are who say: None disputes the case where he took it down to the floor and put it out there, [all agreeing] that he is not guilty, the dispute concerns but the case where he put it out on the top of the altar. Abaye holds he is guilty 'because it is the top of the altar', whereas Raba holds him guilty, 'since he snatched it away, he has snatched it'. According to whose opinion, then, will be the teaching of R'Nahman in the name of Rabbah B'Abbuha viz. : 'One who brings an ember down from the altar and puts it out is guilty', - will you not say it will be in accord with neither Abaye nor Raba? - [No], there it was not snatched away for its ordained use, here it was snatched away' for its ordained use. [