Zevachim 130

Chapter 130

א שיסע ולא הבדיל: ת"ר ושסע אין שיסע אלא ביד וכן הוא אומר (שופטים יד, ו) וישסעהו כשסע הגדי:
1 HE RENT IT. BUT DID NOT SEVER IT.
ב לא הסיר את המוראה כו': מתני' דלא כרבי אלעזר בר"ש דתניא א"ר אלעזר בר"ש שמעתי שמבדילין בחטאת העוף
2 Our Rabbis taught: And he shall rend it:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Ibid., 17.');"><sup>1</sup></span> rending is by hand only, and thus it says, and he rent him as one would have rent a kid.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Jud. XIV, 6. There, of course, it was done by hand.');"><sup>2</sup></span>
ג מאי בינייהו אמר רב חסדא מיצוי חטאת העוף מעכב איכא בינייהו ת"ק סבר מיצוי חטאת העוף מעכב וכיון דמצוי דם קעביד מעשה עולה בחטאת העוף
3 IF HE DID NOT REMOVE THE CROP etc. Our Mishnah does not agree with R'Eleazar B'R'Simeon, For it was taught. R'Eleazar son of R'Simeon said: I have heard that one severs the sin-offering of a bird.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In the sense that if both organs of the throat are nipped, it is not unfit. Our Mishnah states that it is.');"><sup>3</sup></span>
ד ור' אלעזר בר"ש סבר מיצוי חטאת העוף לא מעכב ומחתך בשר בעלמא הוא
4 Wherein do they differ? - Said R'Hisda: They disagree as to whether the draining [of the blood] of the bird sin-offering is indispensable. The first Tanna<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The Tanna of our MISHNAH:');"><sup>4</sup></span>
ה רבא אמר שהייה בסימן שני בעולת העוף מעכב איכא בינייהו תנא קמא סבר שהייה בסימן שני בעולת העוף לא מעכב ואע"ג דשהייה קא עביד מעשה עולה בחטאת
5 holds that it is indispensable, and since then he must drain out the blood, when he [also] severs [it] he performs the rites of a burnt-offering with the bird sin-offering.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For now the rites do not differ in any way, and it is stated infra ');"><sup>5</sup></span> Whereas R'Eleazar son of R'Simeon holds that the draining out of the bird sin-offering is not indispensable,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Whereas it is in the case of a burnt-offering.');"><sup>6</sup></span>
ו ורבי אלעזר בר"ש סבר מעכב וכיון דשהייה מחתך בשר בעלמא הוא
6 therefore he is merely cutting flesh.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' When he nips the second organ. By refraining from draining out the blood after this he makes it clear that he is not performing the rites of a burnt-offering.');"><sup>7</sup></span> Raba said: They differ about a delay at [the nipping of] the second organ in the case of a bird burnt-offering.
ז אביי אמר רוב בשר מעכב איכא בינייהו
7 The first Tanna holds that it does not invalidate [it], a though he does delay, he performs the rites of a burntoffering with a sin-offering; whereas R'Eleazar son of R'Simeon holds that it does invalidate [it], and since he delays, he is merely cutting flesh.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The shechitah of an animal consists of cutting through both organs of the throat, viz., the windpipe and the gullet; should a delay occur between these two organs, it is invalid, and the animal is nebelah (q.v. Glos.) . The shechitah of a bird (of hullin) consists of cutting through one organ only (the second is optional) , since that is sufficient to kill it. Now, a bird burnt-offering must have both organs pinched (which is the equivalent of cut) through, and this can be done without delay between the organs; but when one nips both organs of a bird sin-offering, delay is inevitable, owing to the particular manner in which the rite must be performed, as stated infra. The first Tanna holds that delay between the two organs in the case of a burnt-offering does not invalidate the sacrifice, because the nipping of the second organ is not really part of the shechitah at all. Hence when he nips both organs of a sin-offering, he performs the same rite as would be valid in the case of a burnt-offering, and therefore it (the sin-offering) is unfit. R. Eleazar b. R. Simeon holds that delay in the case of a burnt-offering does invalidate the sacrifice, and since delay is inevitable in the case of a sin-offering, it is obvious that he is not treating it like a burnt-offering.');"><sup>8</sup></span> Abaye said: They differ as to whether [the cutting through of] the greater part of the flesh is indispensable.
ח ובפלוגתא דר' זירא ור' שמואל בר רב יצחק חד אמר שהייה בסימן שני בעולת העוף מעכב איכא בינייהו וחד אמר רוב בשר מעכב איכא בינייהו
8 And they [Raba and Abaye] disagree in the same controversy as that of R'Zera and R'Samuel son of R'Isaac: One maintains that they [the first Tanna and R'Eleazar son of R'Simeon] disagree on whether delay at the second organ invalidates; and the other maintains that they disagree as to whether the [cutting of] the greater part of the flesh is indispensable.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' After the priest nips the first organ, he must also cut through the greater part of the flesh that surrounds it (v. infra) , and this naturally makes a delay before the second organ inevitable. Abaye explains that all hold that a delay at the second organ of a burnt-offering invalidates the sacrifice, but they disagree as to whether the cutting through of the flesh in the case of a sin-offering is indispensable. The first Tanna holds that it is not indispensable, hence it is possible to nip both organs without a delay, and so it becomes like the rites of a burnt-offering and is therefore invalid. But R. Eleazar b. R. Simeon holds that this cutting through is indispensable; hence there must be a delay between the organs, and thereby it differs from a burnt-offering.');"><sup>9</sup></span> Now, this proves that in the first place we require [the cutting of] the greater part of the flesh?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since they disagree on whether it is indispensable, it follows that it is certainly necessary.');"><sup>10</sup></span>
ט מכלל דבעינן דרוב בשר בתחילה אין והתניא כיצד מולקין חטאת העוף חותך שדרה ומפרקת בלא רוב בשר עד שמגיע לוושט או לקנה הגיע לוושט או לקנה חותך סימן אחד או רובו ורוב בשר עמו ובעולה שנים או רוב שנים
9 - Yes, and it was taught likewise: How is the melikah of a bird sin-offering performed? He cuts through the spinal column and the nape, without the greater part of the flesh, until he reaches the gullet or the windpipe.
י אמרוה קמיה דרבי ירמיה אמר לא שמיע להו הא דא"ר שמעון בן אליקים משום רבי אלעזר בן פדת משום ר"א בן שמוע אומר היה ר"א בר' שמעון שמעתי בחטאת העוף שמבדילין ומאי לא יבדיל
10 When he reaches the gullet or the windpipe he cuts one organ, or the greater part thereof, together with the greater part of the flesh; and in the case of a burnt-offering, two [organs] or the greater part thereof.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Hul. 21a. - By 'cut' is meant with his nail, not with a knife.');"><sup>11</sup></span> This was stated before R'Jeremiah.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. the controversies of the amoraim on the points of difference between the first Tanna and R. Eleazar b. R. Simeon.');"><sup>12</sup></span> Said he: Have they not heard what R'Simeon B'Eliakim said on the authority of R'Eleazar B'Pedath on the authority of R'Eleazar B'Shammu'a: R'Eleazar son of R'Simeon affirmed: I have heard that a bird sin-offering is severed, and what does he shall not divide it asunder<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lev. I, 17.');"><sup>13</sup></span> mean?