Commentary for Kiddushin 114:2
מתקיף לה רבי ירמיה הרי רובע ונרבע בעדים דבעלי חיים נינהו ואסירי אלא אמר רבי יוחנן משום רבי שמעון בן יוחי לא מצינו רוב בעלי חיים שאסורים
- They are forbidden only in respect of the Most High, but are indeed permitted for ordinary use.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'for a layman'.');"><sup>4</sup></span> R'Jeremiah demurred: But animals, active or passive participants in bestiality attested by witnesses, are living creatures and yet forbidden?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' These are stoned, and benefit is forbidden as soon as they are sentenced.');"><sup>5</sup></span> But, said R'Johanan, we do not find as a rule live creatures that are [permanently] forbidden.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Hence it is illogical to reverse it.');"><sup>6</sup></span>