Commentary for Kiddushin 142:16

אדרב לייט אדשמואל לא לייט אלא לייט אדרב וכ"ש אדשמואל ואב"א לעולם אדרב לייט אדשמואל לא לייט וגישרא דבי פרת לתתאיה הוה קאי

How far on the lower reaches of the Tigris? - Said R'Samuel: As far as lower Apamea.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' On the right bank of the Tigris; v. Obermeyer p. 86.');">²⁹</span> There were two Apameas, an upper and a lower; one was fit [in respect to marriage] and the other unfit, and one parasang lies between them; and they [their inhabitants] were particular with each other, and did not even lend fire to each other.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' To avoid intimacy which might lead to marriage.');">³⁰</span> And the sign whereby [you may recognise] the unfit is the one that speaks [the] Mesene [dialect]. How far [does it extend] on the upper reaches of the Euphrates? - Rab said: To Fort Tulbakene.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Obermeyer pp. 94-96; S. Funk, Die Juden in Bob. I, p. 13, n. 2, and infra, n. 8.');">³¹</span> Samuel said: To the bridge of Be-pherat;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Obermeyer pp. 94-96; S. Funk, Die Juden in Bob. I, p. 13, n. 2, and infra, n. 8.');">³¹</span> R'Johanan said: As far as the ford of Gizama.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Obermeyer p. 97 on the basis of other readings identifies this with Gidama, mentioned in Suk. 18a. Since R. Johanan's definition is not controverted, this must have been higher up than the other two, v. next note.');">³²</span> Abaye - others state, R'Joseph - cursed Rab's [definition].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Obermeyer p. 94 assumes that the Fort Tulbakene was lower than Pumbeditha, where both Abaye and R. Joseph were heads of the academy. Hence, this excluded Pumbeditha, which aroused their vehement opposition.');">³³</span> Only Rab's, but not Samuel's!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Samuel's definition shut out even more, the bridge of Be-Pherat (for which v. Obermeyer p. 97) lying lower than Fort Tulbakene.');">³⁴</span> - But he cursed Rab's, and all the more so Samuel's. Alternatively, he cursed [only] Rab's, after all, and not Samuel's, and the bridge of Be-Pherat [originally] lay below;

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