Commentary for Kiddushin 87:8
ורבי יהודה מאי שנא מאמר הואיל וזקוקה ועומדת השתא דאתית להכי ר' יוחנן נמי לא תיקשי לך מעיקרא שאני מאמר הואיל וזקוקה ועומדת
But the Rabbis hold: Kiddushin should be learned from kiddushin.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And a declaration takes the form of ordinary kiddushin.');"><sup>9</sup></span> Reason too supports R'Johanan's answer,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That the reference is to a declaration which was made against her will.');"><sup>10</sup></span>
Daf Shevui to Kiddushin
R. Judah holds that the rules governing ma’amar are different from divorce--she can accept the former but not the latter. This is because she is already tied to the yavam as soon as her husband dies.
The Talmud now notes that this logic can also be used to explain why R. Yohanan holds that either she or her father can accept ma’amar but in ordinary betrothal only the father can. In the former case she is already tied to the yavam, and therefore the acceptance is less consequential.
The Talmud now notes that this logic can also be used to explain why R. Yohanan holds that either she or her father can accept ma’amar but in ordinary betrothal only the father can. In the former case she is already tied to the yavam, and therefore the acceptance is less consequential.
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