Commentary for Shabbat 35:4
ודילמא מאי אפר עפר דבר גיבול הוא והתניא אפר והתניא עפר מידי גבי הדדי תניא:
R. Jose son of R. Judah said: He is not liable unless he kneads [them]. Abaye said to him, Yet perhaps R. Jose [son of R. Judah] ruled thus only in respect to flour, which is subject to kneading: but as for ink, which is not subject to kneading, I may say that he is liable?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For mere pouring, even on R. Jose son of Judah's view. ');"><sup>7</sup></span> — You cannot think so, for it was taught: if one pours in the ashes and another the water, the second is liable: this is Rabbi's view. R. Jose son of R. Judah said: [He is not liable] unless he kneads them.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Though ashes do not require kneading. ');"><sup>8</sup></span>
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