Mesorat%20hashas for Menachot 101:23

הדר אמר דנין

- Abaye answered,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' From here to the end of the passage until the next Mishnah the text is in a doubtful state and the MSS. vary considerably from the present text. V. Sh. Mek. where the text is extensively altered. The above translation is based entirely upon the text as in cur. edd. For the variants v. D.S. a.l.');">¹³</span> The Tanna of the clause, '"With oil" signifies that it must have much oil', is R'Simeon, whilst he that argues otherwise by inference [from the freewill meal-offering] is R'Ishmael. R'Huna the son of R'Joshua said, The whole [of the anonymous part of the Baraitha] is by R'Ishmael the son of R'Johanan B'Beroka, and he argues thus: 'With oil' signifies that it must have much oil, for to establish merely that it requires oil no verse would be necessary, since the expression 'on a griddle' indicates that it shall be like any meal-offering prepared on a griddle. But perhaps it is not so, but that ['wi oil'] signifies merely that it requires oil, for had not Holy Writ stated 'with oil' I might have said that it s be like the sinner's meal-offering!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which had no oil at all; cf. Lev. V, 11.');">¹⁴</span> And then he said, Be it even so, that it signifies merely that it requires oil, but surely it can be argued by an inference<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' From the meal-offering which accompanied the Daily Offering.');">¹⁵</span> [that three logs are required]. He then argued by the inference<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' From the meal-offering which accompanied the Daily Offering.');">¹⁵</span> but could not prove his case;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' By reason of the counter argument, namely, let the inference be drawn from the freewill meal-offering.');">¹⁶</span> whereupon he had to resort to the verse, 'Of fine flour for a meal-offering daily', as is expressly stated by R'Ishmael in his concluding remarks. Rabbah said, The whole [of the anonymous part of the Baraitha] is by R'Simeon and he argues thus: 'With oil' signifies that it must have much oil, for to establish merely that it requires oil no verse would be necessary since the expression 'on a griddle' indicates that it shall be like any meal-offering prepared on a griddle. But even without the expression 'with oil' I can arrive at the same conclusion by means of an inference. He thereupon argued by the inference but could not prove his case, so that he had to resort to the expression 'with oil'. He then said, Let it be similar to the meal-offering accompanying the offering of bullocks or of rams;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., granted that it must have more oil than the ordinary meal-offering, it might nevertheless be compared with the meal-offering which accompanied bullocks or rams where only two logs to the tenth are required.');">¹⁷</span> but he rebutted this by saying, We may infer

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