Quotation for Shabbat 224:1
דלמילתיה מנא הוא אבל הכא למילתיה לאו מנא הוא
it is a 'utensil' for its own function, but here it is not a 'utensil' for its own function.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And this is the statement referred to above that R. Johanan explained the law on the view of R. Judah. ');"><sup>1</sup></span> Now, did R. Johanan say thus?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That the halachah is according to R. Judah. ');"><sup>2</sup></span>
Mishnah Kelim
All [wooden] vessels that belong to householder [become clean if the holes in them are] the size of pomegranates. Rabbi Eliezer says: [the size of the hole depends] on what it is used for. Gardeners’ vegetable baskets [become clean if the holes in them are] the size of bundles of vegetables. Baskets of householders [become clean if the holes in them are] the size of [bundles] of straws. Those of bath-keepers, if bundles of chaff [will drop through]. Rabbi Joshua says: in all these the size is that of pomegranates.
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