Quoting%20commentary for Ketubot 162:10
א"ל אביי דלמא דטבא ליה עבדו ליה א"ל תנא תני מוציאין ואת אמרת דטבא ליה עבדו ליה
Abaye said to him, “Perhaps they just did that because it is in his own interests?” He [R. Joseph] said: The tanna taught “it must be taken,” and you say “they just did that because it is in his own interests.”
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