Reference for Chullin 37:13

מהו דתימא ר"ח בן אנטיגנוס אדרבנן קאי קא משמע לן

is permitted by R'Jose B'Judah, and that which is regarded as a deflection by R'Jose B'Judah<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., the cutting of half or more of the windpipe above the top ring.');">⁵</span>

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