Reference for Yoma 78:18
כי פליגי אליבא דר' יהודה מאן דאמר לא מעכבא כרבי יהודה ומאן דאמר מעכבא שאני הכא דתנא ביה קרא אשר עלה אשר עלה תרי זימני
and I could smell the odour of the incense [coming] from its walls. R'Jannai said: To bring the lot up out of the casket is indispensable,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Without the casting of the lots no choice could be made as to the destination of the two he-goats, i.e., the service could not go on.');"><sup>19</sup></span>
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