Reference for Zevachim 37:10
לימא פליגא אדר' יהודה בריה דרבי חייא שאני צילצול קטן דחשיב
Another version states it thus: R'Judah the son of R'Hiyya said: They learnt this only of a reed, but a small belt interposes. While R'Johanan maintained: They said [that] interposition [disqualifies even] when less than three square only in the place of garments; but if not where garments are worn, then if it is three square it interposes; if less, it does not interpose: and that is identical with Raba['s ruling] in R'Hisda's name.
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