Reference for Zevachim 38:8
אמר חזקיה אמר קרא (שמות ל, כא) והיתה להם חק עולם לו ולזרעו לדורותם דבר המעכב בזרעו מעכב בו דבר שאינו מעכב בזרעו אין מעכב בו
[At that] his face lit up.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' R. Assi was very pleased with the answer.');"><sup>11</sup></span> Said he to him: I have written you a waw on a tree-trunk:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' On which, owing to its rough lined surface the letter is not visible. This is an idiom for idle talk.');"><sup>12</sup></span>
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