Related%20passage for Gittin 128:14

אמר רב חסדא אישתיק וורדאן מאי הוה ליה למימר כל דתקון רבנן

[If when given] an article [to play with] it will return it after a time [when asked], it can become possessor either for itself or for others. When I stated this in the presence of Samuel, he said to me, Both cases are just the same. What is the meaning of 'both cases are just the same'? — R. Hisda replied: In either case the child becomes possessor for itself but not for others. R. Hinnena Waradan<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' [I.e., from Baradan, on the Eastern bank of the Tigris, two hours distance from N. of Bagdad (Obermeyer op. cit. p. 269)]. ');">¹⁰</span> raised an objection: How can [all the residents]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In the courts abutting on an alley-way. ');">¹¹</span> become partners in an alley-way?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' So as to be allowed to carry articles into it and through its whole extent on Sabbath, v. 'Er. 73b. ');">¹²</span> One of them places a jar of wine there, saying, This is for all the residents of the alley-way, and he may confer possession upon them through his grown-up son or daughter or through his Hebrew manservant or maidservant. Now how are we to understand this maidservant? If she has grown two hairs,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., reached the age of puberty. ');">¹³</span> what is she doing with him?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since it is his duty to emancipate her. ');">¹⁴</span> We must suppose therefore that she has not yet grown two hairs, and yet we are told that she can take possession on behalf of others?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which seems to refute the dictum of Samuel. ');">¹⁵</span> — The case of partnership in an alley-way is different, because [the prohibition of taking things out there] is only Rabbinical.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And therefore it does not matter if she did not strictly obtain possession. ');">¹⁶</span> R. Hisda said: Waradan was reduced to silence. What could he have answered? — [He could have said that] the Rabbis gave to their regulations

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