Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Related for Ketubot 26:3

והא לסתר או לחורבה קתני חדא לחורבה דמתא וחדא לחורבה דדברא וצריכי דאי אשמעינן חורבה דמתא בהא קמכשר רבן גמליאל משום דרוב כשרים אצלה אבל לחורבה דדברא דרוב פסולין אצלה אימא מודה ליה לרבי יהושע

But it teaches: Into a hidden place or into a ruin! Rather say one refers to the ruin of a town and one refers to the ruin of a field. And they are both necessary. For if it had taught us only concerning a ruin of a town, I might have said that in this case Rabban Gamaliel declares her fit because most of the men of the town are fit with regard to her, but in the case of a ruin of a field, where most of the men are unfit with regard to her, I might say that he agrees with R. Joshua.

Tosefta Ketubot

If she were pregnant and they said to her: "What is the nature of this foetus?", [and she said:] "It is from Ploni the kohen"—Rabban Gamliel and Rabbi Eliezer say: She is believed since this is testimony that a woman is fit for. Rabbi Yehoshua says: She is not believed. Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: Do you not agree that, regarding a captive woman who was captured among the Gentiles, who has witnesses that she were captured, and she says "I am pure" that she is not believed!? They said to him: No! You would say this with a captive woman who has witnesses [that she was captured], can you say it about this one who has no witnesses [that she had a child with this man]!? He said to them: But what greater testimony is there than this, that her womb is between her teeth!? He said to them: There is no guardian for illicit sexual relations [i.e. women aren't expected to check the lineage of their sexual partners, so we have no idea if the father of the foetus is in fact pasul]. When does this apply [that a woman's testimony can be believed]? For testimony about her body [i.e. whether she can go onto marry a kohen or not], but with the child everyone agrees that he is a shetuki [a genealogical blemish belonging to someone whose father is unknown].
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Tosefta Ketubot

If she were pregnant and they said to her: "What is the nature of this foetus?", [and she said:] "It is from Ploni the kohen"—Rabban Gamliel and Rabbi Eliezer say: She is believed since this is testimony that a woman is fit for. Rabbi Yehoshua says: She is not believed. Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: Do you not agree that, regarding a captive woman who was captured among the Gentiles, who has witnesses that she were captured, and she says "I am pure" that she is not believed!? They said to him: No! You would say this with a captive woman who has witnesses [that she was captured], can you say it about this one who has no witnesses [that she had a child with this man]!? He said to them: But what greater testimony is there than this, that her womb is between her teeth!? He said to them: There is no guardian for illicit sexual relations [i.e. women aren't expected to check the lineage of their sexual partners, so we have no idea if the father of the foetus is in fact pasul]. When does this apply [that a woman's testimony can be believed]? For testimony about her body [i.e. whether she can go onto marry a kohen or not], but with the child everyone agrees that he is a shetuki [a genealogical blemish belonging to someone whose father is unknown].
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Tosefta Ketubot

If she were pregnant and they said to her: "What is the nature of this foetus?", [and she said:] "It is from Ploni the kohen"—Rabban Gamliel and Rabbi Eliezer say: She is believed since this is testimony that a woman is fit for. Rabbi Yehoshua says: She is not believed. Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: Do you not agree that, regarding a captive woman who was captured among the Gentiles, who has witnesses that she were captured, and she says "I am pure" that she is not believed!? They said to him: No! You would say this with a captive woman who has witnesses [that she was captured], can you say it about this one who has no witnesses [that she had a child with this man]!? He said to them: But what greater testimony is there than this, that her womb is between her teeth!? He said to them: There is no guardian for illicit sexual relations [i.e. women aren't expected to check the lineage of their sexual partners, so we have no idea if the father of the foetus is in fact pasul]. When does this apply [that a woman's testimony can be believed]? For testimony about her body [i.e. whether she can go onto marry a kohen or not], but with the child everyone agrees that he is a shetuki [a genealogical blemish belonging to someone whose father is unknown].
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