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אמר רבה בר בר חנה אמר ריש לקיש עיסה שנילושה ביין ושמן ודבש אין חייבין על חימוצה כרת יתיב רב פפא ורב הונא בריה דרב יהושע קמיה דרב אידי בר אבין ויתיב רב אידי בר אבין וקא מנמנם א"ל רב הונא בריה דרב יהושע לרב פפא מאי טעמא דריש לקיש

or perhaps it is near to leaven, but is not completely leaven?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., it can never become completely leaven. Hence R. Johanan b. Nuri prohibits its use on the first night for the fulfilment of one's obligations.');">²¹</span> - Come and hear: For it was taught, R'Johanan B'Nuri said: Rice is a species of corn and kareth is incurred for [eating it in] its leavened state, and a man discharges his obligation with it on Passover. And thus R'Johanan B'Nuri used to say, Karmith [cow-wheat] is subject to hallah.

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