Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Related for Shabbat 162:4

א"ר יוחנן אסור לקנח בחרס בשבת מאי טעמא אילימא משום סכנה אפילו בחול נמי ואלא משום כשפים אפי' בחול נמי לא ואלא משום השרת נימין דבר שאין מתכוין הוא אמר להו רב נתן בר אושעיא גברא רבה אמר מילתא נימא בה טעמא לא מיבעיא בחול דאסור אבל בשבת הואיל ואיכא תורת כלי עליו שפיר דמי קמ"ל

R. Kahana demurred: If they said [that it is permitted] in case of need,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. for cleansing, which is necessary. ');"><sup>12</sup></span> shall they say [thus] where there is no need!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Surely not! ');"><sup>13</sup></span> Abaye said: As for parpisa, since it has come to hand, we will state something about it. If it is lying on the ground and one places it upon pegs, he is culpable on the score of detaching; if it is lying on pegs and one places it on the ground, he is liable on the score of planting.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Cf. n. 3. 'Culpable' here merely denotes that the action is forbidden, but does not imply liability to a sin-offering, as usual (Rashi and Tosaf.). ');"><sup>14</sup></span> R. Johanan said: One must not cleanse oneself with a shard on the Sabbath. What is the reason? Shall we say on account of danger?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' He may cut himself. ');"><sup>15</sup></span>

Tosefta Beitzah (Lieberman)

R. Eliezer says: One may take a sliver of wood to pick his teeth with; but the Sages declare it forbidden, But he may take something from the manger located in front of the cattle - only he should not tear it off - in order to poke his teeth with it If he tore it off on the Sabbath, he is obligated to make a sin offering; if he has torn it down on the holiday, he gets the lashes. R. Eliezer says: A scion from the yard, one may gather it up and set it on fire, only he should not intend to pile them up in heaps; R. Shimon declares it permissible, for everything that is in the courtyard is already there.
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