Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Responsa for Shevuot 81:14

תנן מנה לי בידך אמר לו הן למחר אמר לו תנהו לי נתתיו לך פטור והא הכא כיון דתבעיה בעדים כמאן דאוזפיה בעדים דמי וקתני פטור

we say to him, 'Swear to him.' Said R'Aha B'Raba to R'Ashi: [If so]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' [Adopting reading of Florentine MS. v. D.S. a.l.]');"><sup>21</sup></span> what is the difference between this and one who impairs the validity of his document?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If a creditor, producing a document for his claim, admits having already received some payment on account, he impairs the trustworthiness of his document, for the amount stated on the document is now not true (on his own admission) , and he may have received more than he admits; he therefore cannot obtain the rest of his claim without taking an oath. But in R. Papa's example he does not admit partial repayment, and therefore has not impaired the validity of the document he produces; why then should he be asked to take an oath?');"><sup>22</sup></span> - He said to him: There,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Where the document is impaired.');"><sup>23</sup></span> even if the debtor does not demand [an oath], we demand it for him; but here, we say to him, 'Go and pay him'; but if he demands and says, 'Swear to me,' we say to the creditor, 'Go and swear to him.'<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For though the document is valid, it is possible the debtor paid him, and the creditor omitted to restore the document to the debtor for destruction; therefore he must swear, if the debtor demands it; v. Tosaf.');"><sup>24</sup></span> But if he is a Rabbinic scholar, we do not make him swear. Said R'Yemar to R'Ashi: A Rabbinic scholar may strip men of their cloaks?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Because he is a scholar is he favoured, and allowed to enforce his claim without an oath?');"><sup>25</sup></span> But<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' [It is not clear whether what follows are the words of R. Ashi or of R. Yemar. MS.M. reads, He (R. Ashi) said to him.]');"><sup>26</sup></span> we do not attend to his case.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' We do not make him swear, because it would appear that we suspect him of attempting to claim money on a paid document; but he cannot receive his money, for the debtor demands an oath. But what is the difference between a scholar and an ordinary person? An ordinary person, too, need not swear, and loses his money. A scholar, if he has obtained his money by force from the debtor, is allowed to retain it; but an t,phrj tkupkp ordinary person is compelled by the court to return it; v. Asheri and a.l.');"><sup>27</sup></span> 'YOU HAVE OF MINE IN YOUR POSSESSION ONE HUNDRED DENARII,' etc. R'Judah said: R'Assi said; If one lends to his neighbour before witnesses, he must repay him before witnesses. When I said this before Samuel, he said to me: He may say to him: 'I paid you before So-and-so and So-and-so, and they went to a country beyond the seas.'<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And are therefore not available; and the borrower is exempt. utk');"><sup>28</sup></span> We learnt: 'YOU HAVE OF MINE IN YOUR POSSESSION A HUNDRED DENARII'; HE SAID TO HIM [BEFORE WITNESSES]: 'YES'. ON THE MORROW HE SAID TO HIM: 'GIVE THEM TO ME'; [AND THE OTHER REPLIED:] 'I HAVE GIVEN THEM TO YOU,' HE IS EXEMPT. Now here, since he claimed from him before witnesses,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And he admitted the debt before them; v. B.B. ');"><sup>29</sup></span> it is as if he le him before witnesses, and yet it states he is exempt:

Teshuvot Maharam

Q. B gave A two marks to invest and, from the profits, to pay every year a certain amount to charity to commemorate the soul of his departed wife. Now B demands that A pay him back the principal plus the accrued interest. A, however, claims that he received the two marks from B in order to give it, together with the interest, to any charity he pleases. He, therefore, refuses to return the money to B.
A. If B admits that the principal was also meant for charity, but claims that he wants to distribute it himself, A is free from any obligation to B, and is not even required to take an oath, since no actual money loss to B is involved.
SOURCES: Cr. 87; Pr. 286; Mord. Shebu. 767.
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Q. A demands that Leah return to him the money he deposited with her. Leah claims that A deposited the money with her on condition that she do not return it to him without his wife's consent. [A's wife does not consent to the return of the deposit]. Are we to believe a trustee who was appointed by the two opposing parties regarding the terms of his trusteeship, or may we require him to take an oath? Moreover, Leah is a married woman. May her husband object to her being degraded by imposing an oath on her?
A. A trustee appointed by both parties is not required to take an oath regarding the terms of his trusteeship. But, Leah was not appointed trustee by both parties. She was only appointed by the husband, and, therefore, is required to take an oath. Leah's husband cannot object to imposing an oath on her. If the law requires that a woman take an oath, the husband has no right to protest against her being degraded in court. But, since Leah, as long as she is married, has no money of her own, and were she to claim that she had already returned the deposit, no oath would be imposed on her, we now lend credence to her words and require no oath. However, the court should give A a writ stating that after Leah will be divorced or widowed she will have to return the money to A or take an oath to the effect that A deposited the money with her on condition that she return it upon his wife's consent only.
SOURCES: L. 306–7; Mord. B. K. 89. Cf. Pr. 739; Tesh. Maim. to Mishpatim, 44.
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Teshuvot Maharam

Q. A claims he has no cash and wants to repay his debt to B with goods. B demands that A swear that he has no cash. Is it not true that the court can not require an oath from A since no actual loss of money to B is involved?
A. The fact that there is no actual loss of money to B does not, of itself, absolve A from taking an oath. A is not required to take the oath for another reason. B can not claim to be certain that A has cash, and no one is required to take an oath when his opponent is not certain of his claim.
This Responsum is addressed to Rabbi Asher b. Moses.
SOURCES: Cr. 7, 8; Pr. 109; L. 360. Cf. Am II, 224.
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