Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Talmud for Eruvin 115:16

אמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל לא שנו אלא שאין חוט המשקולת יורד כנגדו

it is pierced in an upward, as well as in a downward direction.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The method of piercing is described infra 58b.');"><sup>29</sup></span> If it<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The measuring line. iht');"><sup>30</sup></span> reached a wall we do not say: 'Let the wall be bored through';<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. that poles towering above it shall be held up on both its sides and the rope stretched from one to the other (Tosaf. s.v. a.l.) .');"><sup>31</sup></span> its thickness rather is estimated and the measuring continues.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Tosef. 'Er. IV.');"><sup>32</sup></span> Have we not, however, learnt: HE SPANS IT AND RESUMES HIS MEASURING?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Why then is a mere estimate allowed in this case?');"><sup>33</sup></span> - There<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In our MISHNAH:');"><sup>34</sup></span> it is a case of one that can be conveniently used<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' One for instance that rises gently to a height of ten handbreadths in all area of four cubits. Hence it must either be spanned or pierced.');"><sup>35</sup></span> but here it is a case of one that cannot conveniently be used.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' A wall, for instance, that rose sharply in a perpendicular direction. As its sides are of no use for walking purposes they may be disregarded and only the estimated thickness of the wall need be included in the measurements.');"><sup>36</sup></span> Rab Judah citing Samuel stated: This<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That the method of piercing is admissible.');"><sup>37</sup></span> was learned only in the case where a plumb line<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Suspended from the edge of the glen and reaching the bed.');"><sup>38</sup></span> does not descend in a straight line<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'corresponding to it'. This is defined infra 58b.');"><sup>39</sup></span>

Jerusalem Talmud Eruvin

HALAKHAH: Paragraph. “One only measures with a rope of 50 cubits,” etc. How much is the measure of the Sabbath domain? 40 ropes. “Neither less” since it can be tightened and increases, “nor more” since it gets loose and loses116Babli 58 a.. Some Tannaim state, one measures with a linen rope, but some Tannaim state, with a chain rope117A metal chain., and some Tannaim state, with a rope of four cubits. 116Babli 58 a. Rebbi Joshua said, there is no truer measure than with chains, but what can I do since in Prophets it is written ropes, a linen twine was in his hand and a measuring rod118Ez. 40:3..
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