Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Talmud for Eruvin 176:15

אמר ליה אביי והרי שופכין דאדם רוצה שיבלעו וקתני לא ישפוך

R'ELIEZER B. JACOB RULED: IF FOUR CUBITS OF A DRAIN WERE COVERED OVER'Our Mishnah<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which attributes to the Sages the view that water MAY BE POURED UPON THE ROOF.');"><sup>37</sup></span> cannot represent the opinion of Hananya,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since he permitted this only in a courtyard but not on a roof The roofs spoken of were flat and had drains in the form of gutters into which rain water flowed and water was poured.');"><sup>38</sup></span> for it was taught: Hananya ruled: Even if [the area of] a roof was a hundred cubits no water may be poured upon it since a roof is not made to absorb water but to cause it to run down.

Jerusalem Talmud Eruvin

Rebbi Jeremiah said, Rebbi Meïr and Rebbi Eliezer ben Jacob both said the same. Rebbi Eliezer ben Jacob as we have stated: “Rebbi Eliezer ben Jacob says, on the Sabbath one may pour water into a sewer which is covered for four cubits in the public domain, but the Sages are saying, even from a roof or a courtyard 100 cubits [wide] one may not pour into the sewer.” Rebbi Meïr as it was stated: In large cities one may pour water into flows even though they are perforated, the words of Rebbi Meïr140If a river is diverted into many small currents which run in streets and through courtyards (as can be seen, e. g., in Freiburg i. B., Germany), one may pour water into them on the Sabbath since it will not be noticed.. 141The main discussion about prohibitions added because people may get a bad impression, which also includes the text here, is in Kilaim 9:2 (Notes 34–40, Eruvin problem Note 39). Rav’s opinion is accepted in the Babli (Šabbat 64b, 164b, Beṣah 9a, ˋAvodah zarah 12a) but consistently rejected in the Yerushalmi. And it was stated thus, if it was a drainpipe it is permitted; in the rainy season it is permitted142Babli 88b. The Babli holds that during the rainy season there never was any rabbinic prohibition because everything is being wet anyhow.; streaming spouts are forbidden and Bar Qappara stated, if it occurred at a hidden place it is permitted. This disagrees with Rav and he cannot explain it, since Rav said that everything forbidden because of a bad impression is forbidden even in the most private room.
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